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Why Sunday as Sabbath?

d.n.irvin

Active Member
I have been praying and studying my Bible, and cannot find one Biblical reference to keep Sunday Holy! It kinda scares me because the 4th Commandment specifically states "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy", How can the only commandment God tell us remember we forget! I say this because most of us go to church on Suday. Can anyone show me where the Bible says Keep Suday Holy ? Or tell me where Sunday worship came from?
 

SoyLeche

meh...
I believe the reasoning is that Christ was ressurected on Sunday, so the observance of the Sabbath was shifted to that day as a celebration of the ressurection.

As far as I know, there is nothing in the Bible that says to "keep sunday holy" - other than an idication in Acts 20:7 that the disciples met on Sunday to "Break Bread" (the Lord's Supper).

Now, if you are willing to accept modern revelation (which I am), the waters get less murky.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/59 (Lord's Day = Sunday, from the reasoning above)

9 And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day; 10 For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High;

11 Nevertheless thy vows shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times;

12 But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.

13 And on this day thou shalt do none other thing, only let thy food be prepared with singleness of heart that thy fasting may be perfect, or, in other words, that thy joy may be full.
 

PHOTOTAKER

Well-Known Member
there is six days of work and on the seveth we should rest. the sevenths is the holy day... i don't thank it matters at all what day it is as long as you keep an eye single to the Glory of God
 

d.n.irvin

Active Member
PHOTOTAKER said:
there is six days of work and on the seveth we should rest. the sevenths is the holy day... i don't thank it matters at all what day it is as long as you keep an eye single to the Glory of God

What does the Bible teach?
 

Snowbear

Nita Okhata
d.n.irvin said:
I have been praying and studying my Bible, and cannot find one Biblical reference to keep Sunday Holy! It kinda scares me because the 4th Commandment specifically states "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy", How can the only commandment God tell us remember we forget! I say this because most of us go to church on Suday. Can anyone show me where the Bible says Keep Suday Holy ? Or tell me where Sunday worship came from?
Sunday is actually the first day of the week on most western calendars. I too have often wondered why many Christians who argue for keeping the sabbath insist that the first day of the week is the sabbath?? Seems contradictory to me. But then I'm one of those rebels who considers every day holy and should be lived for God...

Somewhere on these forums was a pretty good explanation of why Christians traditionally hold worship services on the first day of the week.... I'll go try to find it and edit it into this post if I do....

Found the post I was thinking of...
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Snowbear said:
Somewhere on these forums was a pretty good explanation of why Christians traditionally hold worship services on the first day of the week.... I'll go try to find it and edit it into this post if I do....
Somehow this thread is an exact duplicate of another one, but the other one has only one response, which was SoyLeche's. He said:

SoyLeche said:
I believe the reasoning is that Christ was ressurected on Sunday, so the observance of the Sabbath was shifted to that day as a celebration of the ressurection.

As far as I know, there is nothing in the Bible that says to "keep sunday holy" - other than an idication in Acts 20:7 that the disciples met on Sunday to "Break Bread" (the Lord's Supper).

Now, if you are willing to accept modern revelation (which I am), the waters get less murky.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/59 (Lord's Day = Sunday, from the reasoning above)

9 And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day; 10 For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High;

11 Nevertheless thy vows shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times;

12 But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.

13 And on this day thou shalt do none other thing, only let thy food be prepared with singleness of heart that thy fasting may be perfect, or, in other words, that thy joy may be full.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Christians - with the very minor exception of some very minor splinter groups - worship on Sunday as a celebration of the resurrection of Christ. It looks to me like the earliest Christians celebrated together as often as they could, and mass is said daily in most Christian churches.

This is a very good reference tool, with Scriptures and citations from the church fathers (eg, folks who were martyred to found the Church rather than some evangelical wacko).

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/sunday_worship.html
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
The seventh day is the holy day because it is the day of the spirit (the sun symbolises spirit).
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
d.n.irvin said:
I have been praying and studying my Bible, and cannot find one Biblical reference to keep Sunday Holy! It kinda scares me because the 4th Commandment specifically states "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy", How can the only commandment God tell us remember we forget! I say this because most of us go to church on Suday. Can anyone show me where the Bible says Keep Suday Holy ? Or tell me where Sunday worship came from?
Sunday worship came from the Catholic tennant that they have apostolic succession(The Pope became head of the apostles)and as such they believe they have the right to change the Sabbath, all of the protestant churches can not make this claim, but out of "tradition" keep the same day as the Catholic Church.
There is not one statement from the mouth of God, Jesus nor any of the apostles to justify the change of the Sabbath to "Dei Solis" only the Constantinian Replacement Theology!
The Jews and Messianic's and a handful of Christian Denominations keep and gaurd the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy.
I, personally think there will be alot of Sunday keeping Christians will miss the "First Resurrection."
As both the first and second Testaments say God and Yeshua "Do not Change."
Also the "Seventh Day" has never changed! It is still God's Moedim/set times.
Sunday is "The Precepts of Man."

Shalom
 

SoyLeche

meh...
Ronald said:
There is not one statement from the mouth of God, Jesus nor any of the apostles to justify the change of the Sabbath to "Dei Solis"
Unless, of course, you accept the statement that I made above (well, actually, that I made in a different thread and Katzpur quoted above). You don't have to accept it, but I do :)

I can also find plenty of statements from Apostles on the issue as well, for what it's worth.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Ronald said:
Sunday worship came from the Catholic tennant that they have apostolic succession(The Pope became head of the apostles)and as such they believe they have the right to change the Sabbath, all of the protestant churches can not make this claim, but out of "tradition" keep the same day as the Catholic Church.
There is not one statement from the mouth of God, Jesus nor any of the apostles to justify the change of the Sabbath to "Dei Solis" only the Constantinian Replacement Theology!
The Jews and Messianic's and a handful of Christian Denominations keep and gaurd the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy.
I, personally think there will be alot of Sunday keeping Christians will miss the "First Resurrection."
As both the first and second Testaments say God and Yeshua "Do not Change."
Also the "Seventh Day" has never changed! It is still God's Moedim/set times.
Sunday is "The Precepts of Man."

Shalom

Thou shalt not have more caffiene.
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
angellous_evangellous said:
Thou shalt not have more caffiene.
"The Eleventh Christian Commandment?"

Cutie Billboard; God; "Don't make me come down there."

We are to Shema/hear v'Shemar/and observe the Torah/word of God.
Nuf sed!

Shalom
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
angellous_evangellous said:
It's in 2nd Assumptions
When I became a Scoutmaster, I was taught "Never assume anything."
Reading the books written by Paul, he said something like this, Prove all things.
So if assumption is a Christian trait, it is time to make a change!

Shalom
 

SoyLeche

meh...
Ronald said:
When I became a Scoutmaster, I was taught "Never assume anything."
Reading the books written by Paul, he said something like this, Prove all things.
So if assumption is a Christian trait, it is time to make a change!

Shalom
Assumption isn't. A sense of humor helps though.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
SoyLeche said:
Assumption isn't. A sense of humor helps though.

Seriously, one has to be exceptionally patient, well-schooled in epistemology, and painfully through to identify and eliminate all assumptions.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Caffiene is particularly dangerous when mixed with the internet.
 
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