Why there will NEVER be world peace...

[sandandfoam]

Right now the definition of peace is "no war". That doesn't mean that people are at peace.

That definition would do fine for starters.

I am a huge fan of Albert Bandura. In one of his books he makes the point that "People's beliefs in their collective efficacy influence the type of social future they seek to achieve, how much effort they put into it, and their endurance when collective efforts fail to produce quick results....Those who are beset by a low sense of efficacy are quickly convinced of the futility of effort to reform...As the need for efficacious collective effort grows, so does the sense of collective powerlessness....The times call for social initiatives that build people's sense of self efficacy to shape their lives and that of future generations."

I agree.

I grew up during 'the Troubles', I have seen peace take hold in this country and friendships that would have been unimaginable twenty years ago blossom.
I believe in personal efficacy and I believe in Peace.
I hate war and I hate guns. I hate political murder and I hate state murder. Violence disgusts me. Fear intimidation and coercion I will not suffer.

I am efficacious, I love life and I want my children to live in a better world. I will struggle for peace in so far as I can. For me not to do so would be personal cowardice of the worst kind.

Why on earth would I give in to nay-sayers who would have me live in a world where war and violence is the norm. I remember living in that world and I hated it.

 

[no-body]

Of course there will never be true peace, everything is strife and change it is the nature of the world. Still it dosen't mean we shouldn't strive towards it and some sort of inner peace with change.

The Christian belief in the apocalypse/coming of jesus/world peace is a whole other animal. Mostly it is just a carrot and stick system along with fear and vague predictions from the bible to proselytize people. It's not really a philosophy at all.

 

[ninerbuff]

Very true. The next power move may not be with armies. China is accumulating so much cash right now that they kick their surplus cash into side investments. Those side investments is the US debt. The US will become/already is a cash slave to China. The cord is slowly being pulled in and the US will soon be a puppet on a cord held by China. The dragon will win in the end. What kind of future do you think that will bring about.

That we have to grow more rice than corn?
Ha I'm for that since I'm Asian! But on a serious note, it will be like being in debt to the Mafia.

 

[MathewJames]

cut down the corn and grow rice. you may be correct again.

 

[ninerbuff]

cut down the corn and grow rice. you may be correct again.

Real home cooked rice ( not like Uncle Ben's ) in a rice cooker or out of a pot is the best. Many don't even know how good a staple it is in a good diet. And it digests much better than corn.

 

[PolyHedral]

We'll probably never get world peace so long as there are finite resources to go around.

However, this is not an insurmountable problem.

 

[ninerbuff]

We'll probably never get world peace so long as there are finite resources to go around.

However, this is not an insurmountable problem.

It is really about supply and demand, huh? I mean the haves have and have nots serve the haves.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

After reading a proclamation of a member on how jesus will bring world peace, I am convinced that it will NEVER happen.

Sure world peace can happen. The all you have to do is rid the planet of all the people.

 

[Vansdad]

Where have all the hippies gone?

I bet if everyone were allowed to get stoned everyday there would be a much higher chance of peace!!!

Now you're talking

As long as you pass it around. lol
Actually I think peace on earth will happen when all people find inner peace. Or at least the ones in charge.

 

[SilverSoul]

I think world peace is entirely possible, but I don't think it's the thing that people think it is. Everyone has this idea of peace as everybody suddenly loving each other and singing Kumbaya, where everyone is suddenly equal and the same. Problem is, even within small groups everyone isn't the same!

I think of it more as coexistence. I think world peace would be everyone being accepting of their differences and agreeing to disagree. Let's face it- any two given people are NOT the same! Even if physically they were the same, they have different emotional and spiritual needs. So long as we refuse to acknowledge and accept that, conflict is possible and likely.

If you want to talk about it in economic terms- China has a LOT more people than the United States. It's shaped differently, a different size, and has different primary crops. Of course they can make more if they set their minds to it! But they also NEED more. They need to import more food and supplies, and they need space. Each country has different needs, and if we accept that without assuming it makes them better than others, we can be partners.

I don't think peace comes with ignoring difference- it comes with accepting it and truly embracing it. Right now, I think we acknowledge it, but we're having difficulty really embracing it. The dividing lines between groups are still thought of as barriers to overcome instead of inevitable facts of the world.

SilverSoul

 

[ninerbuff]

I think world peace is entirely possible, but I don't think it's the thing that people think it is. Everyone has this idea of peace as everybody suddenly loving each other and singing Kumbaya, where everyone is suddenly equal and the same. Problem is, even within small groups everyone isn't the same!

I think of it more as coexistence. I think world peace would be everyone being accepting of their differences and agreeing to disagree. Let's face it- any two given people are NOT the same! Even if physically they were the same, they have different emotional and spiritual needs. So long as we refuse to acknowledge and accept that, conflict is possible and likely.

If you want to talk about it in economic terms- China has a LOT more people than the United States. It's shaped differently, a different size, and has different primary crops. Of course they can make more if they set their minds to it! But they also NEED more. They need to import more food and supplies, and they need space. Each country has different needs, and if we accept that without assuming it makes them better than others, we can be partners.

I don't think peace comes with ignoring difference- it comes with accepting it and truly embracing it. Right now, I think we acknowledge it, but we're having difficulty really embracing it. The dividing lines between groups are still thought of as barriers to overcome instead of inevitable facts of the world.

SilverSoul

Lol, then all we're talking here is free trade amongst all countries!!

 

[chinu]

All this inspired by one member?

Great.


_/\_
Chinu

 

[BruceDLimber]

Baha'is have every confidence that world peace can, Will, and MUST happen; and indeed are working toward it every day!

Bruce

 

[Dezzie]

I don't think there will ever be World Peace. It would be a freaking miracle if it did happen. There is too much hate in the World though.

 

[ninerbuff]

Baha'is have every confidence that world peace can, Will, and MUST happen; and indeed are working toward it every day!

Bruce

Gotta work alot harder then. I see no influence of Bahai in any peace talks.

 

[astarath]

Scripture says a world devoted to the flesh will always be divided.

 

[ninerbuff]

Scripture says a world devoted to the flesh will always be divided.

You don't need scripture to figure that one out. Common sense tells you that if countries don't agree on morals, economy and beliefs, they will be divided.

 

[Meow Mix]

Vote me as philosopher queen and I'll force peace. With violence.

 

[Caladan]

Vote me as philosopher queen and I'll force peace. With violence.

Peace through superior fire power. I like that.

 

[MathewJames]

Peace through superior fire power. I like that.

that is the common wisdom and forever will be