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Death on the cross.Ryan2065 said:What job was too big for a prophet that required the son of God?
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Death on the cross.Ryan2065 said:What job was too big for a prophet that required the son of God?
I recommend Hebrews 9 for a brief look at the relationship between Old Covenant and New Covenant sacrifice.uumckk16 said:But why? Why did God want people to sacrifice animals? What good would that do?
Yes, that is probably true. But couldn't it at least be logical? Maybe I'm just missing a major part of the story here, because I've never understood how blood sacrifice could appease any God. Blood sacrifices are found in many cultures and religions and I just don't get it.adilrockstar said:It is the Law and Order that God chose. No matter what the method we would still ask "why that way".
FerventGodSeeker said:I recommend Hebrews 9 for a brief look at the relationship between Old Covenant and New Covenant sacrifice.
IMO, the law of sacrifice was instituted because it came from earlier primitive religions and misguided people who thought we had to kill innocent beings to absolve our own guilt.uumckk16 said:Yes, that is probably true. But couldn't it at least be logical? Maybe I'm just missing a major part of the story here, because I've never understood how blood sacrifice could appease any God. Blood sacrifices are found in many cultures and religions and I just don't get it.
He didn't "need" to do anything.... the Word became flesh because of His love for us....God could have just as easily "saved" us with the ol snap-of-the-finger trick....Ryan2065 said:Basically I'm asking why did the son of God need to appear 2000 years ago?
The incarnation of God reconciled humanity to God. In the act of incarnation, God revealed our true nature and potential, as well as our true relationship.Why was Jesus necessary? What world events were happening that required the son of God to preach rather than the prophets that God sent in the past? What job was too big for a prophet that required the son of God?
Because God wanted humanity to become divine.1 Why was Jesus necessary?
Becuz God wants to be a man
uumckk16 said:If I slaughter my cat, what good does that do? What does it prove? Why is God appeased by blood? Especially if God is love?
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Hebrews 9 does not just talk about progression, but symbolism...Old Testament sacrifices were a symbol of the one ultimate sacrifice of Jesus who would come and deliver His people from their sins.uumckk16 said:Thanks, I skimmed over it. I understand the relationship; I understand the progression from animal sacrifices to the sacrifice of the Son of God. That's not my question. Thanks though
Right. I agree with you. Like I said, I see the progression. I just don't understand the concept of any blood sacrifice for sins. Even if you were physically punishing yourself for your sins, I wouldn't see the logic behind it, though that would make more sense than punishing another.Wandered Off said:IMO, the law of sacrifice was instituted because it came from earlier primitive religions and misguided people who thought we had to kill innocent beings to absolve our own guilt.
If you accept all that, its easy to see the logic well maybe the consistency in taking this to its extreme conclusion: If I sinned so kill that lamb works, but its only temporary and you have to keep hacking apart more and more small animals, then I sinned, so kill that Gods son, then itll be all better forever is a seemingly natural progression. Its the Ultimate Sacrifice, if you will, and it makes some sense - WITHIN that crazy context of killing one thing for sins of another.
adilrockstar said:God has never asked you to "slaughter your cat". If He did it would be for good reason.
Okay. If that works for you, that's great. It's just not a good enough explanation for me.adilrockstar said:No matter what the order God chooses, we will always ask "why that way".
FerventGodSeeker said:Hebrews 9 does not just talk about progression, but symbolism...Old Testament sacrifices were a symbol of the one ultimate sacrifice of Jesus who would come and deliver His people from their sins.