Audie
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The irony in presenting someone with whom people could relate while also denying him access to being completely human is not lost on anyone except true believers.
A true believer will truly believe anything.
Except ToE.
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The irony in presenting someone with whom people could relate while also denying him access to being completely human is not lost on anyone except true believers.
First, it is a misconception that one needs direct experience with something to understand it. I have never personally tasted feces, but I am certain in acknowledging that it is neither tasteful nor healthy.
If you think about he rose from the dead and continued his teaching. No days you would classify such a person a a Zombie!Maybe he was gay? Maybe nobody was too
interested in a wandering faith healer?
And of course, too- nobody actually knows
when or where he was born, nor where and when
he died. For nine tenths of his life there is not
even the pretense of a record.
What record there is is dubious, believable
only to someone who decided in advance to believe
anything. See "nativity", for one.
All "sayings" are written down many years later,
with the usual explanation being that "god" made
sure the scribes memory was perfect.
So was he married, or left handed? Nobody
actually knows.
He was a pretty scruffy guy, and his carpentry business never really took off. Also, he spent a lot of time in the company of men, so...Didn't almost all other biblical prophets have wives - many of them? Is there evidence in the bible Jesus wasn't married? Why shouldn't he have been?
Jesus is originally from Ireland!He was a pretty scruffy guy, and his carpentry business never really took off. Also, he spent a lot of time in the company of men, so...
I'm not sure it would be unique enough.If you're going to create a new religion you need to make sure you have some unique selling points.
I know but from the way you phrase it it looks to me like you may have misunderstood it. But I'm not sure.I have not included quotes, and it is a paraphrase.
So? Sounds like an average guy.He was a pretty scruffy guy, and his carpentry business never really took off. Also, he spent a lot of time in the company of men, so...
That is very true. I tend to think then that maybe the "True Believers" are trying to escape being human, rather than discovering what it means to be fully human, and fully spiritual, like Jesus was. I don't believe they see that as a goal at all, to be fully human and fully awakened. Jesus' body, gets seen really more just a shell, like putting on a coat or something, rather than something he fully inhabited.The irony in presenting someone with whom people could relate while also denying him access to being completely human is not lost on anyone except true believers.
Didn't almost all other biblical prophets have wives - many of them? Is there evidence in the bible Jesus wasn't married? Why shouldn't he have been?
"He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world." Jn8:23
Lets ponder why priests are single in the Roman churches. Lets brainstorm. Whether Jesus marries or not, the marriage is not at the center of the gospel story; because there is neither male nor female in Christ. Jesus says those who are resurrected neither marry nor are given in marriage, and he says that those who repent from sin have been resurrected. That is, those who repent and are alive in Christ must deny themselves. Stringent, isn't it? Most people don't like this part. I could be wrong of course, and the priests themselves don't provide this reasoning.
So Jesus married his body?
If you're going to create a new religion you need to make sure you have some unique selling points.
That is very true. I tend to think then that maybe the "True Believers" are trying to escape being human, rather than discovering what it means to be fully human, and fully spiritual, like Jesus was. I don't believe they see that as a goal at all, to be fully human and fully awakened. Jesus' body, gets seen really more just a shell, like putting on a coat or something, rather than something he fully inhabited.
I can, but I don't think that helps us here.Can you imagine a 30 year old man in his prime having his leg and feet washed with the tears of a prostitute and then dried with her hair? I bet he was solid rock!
Didn't almost all other biblical prophets have wives - many of them? Is there evidence in the bible Jesus wasn't married? Why shouldn't he have been?