Why Would Noah's Flood Have Been the Best Way for God to Cleanse the Earth?

[YoursTrue]

That's the common interpretation that I've seen among nearly all Christian groups that I am aware of.

I said, "the way I understand it is that God sets the standard for what's right or wrong, exemplified by the mandate to not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So God directed Adam to do certain things. What do you conclude from this?" And you answered in the above saying that's the common interpretation that you've seen among nearly all Christian groups...and then I asked you what you believe and you seemed to say you'll believe whatever seems relevant to you. But that of course doesn't answer the question about what the tree of the knowledge of good and evil represents insofar as you're concerned. But anyway, have a nice day. If you care to answer, please do so. Other than the goalposts keep changing, thanks again.

 

[David Davidovich]

You use a lot of emojis.

And you don't use enough of them. Also, do I detect a disguised ad hominen? Because you know what they say about when people need to resort to them.

After perusing your posts and the OP you referenced - I saw a lot of talk about God being perfect - and the Lord Jesus Christ becoming perfect - but nothing about any of God's creations being perfect.

So - from my position you have yet to do this supposed "something" that you are now unwilling to "repeat".

Well, here's another emoji. Yawn!

Please don't take this the wrong way - but I consider your refusal to cite a specific Biblical reference that claims that any of God's creations were "perfect" (in the literal sense of the word) as confirmation that the Bible does not support that claim.

I believe you have been sharing your opinion and claiming that it is supported by the Bible.

Well, I was just taking a page from your playbook.

This is one of the "traditional" ideas that I reject - the entire "testing" idea makes no sense.

I do not believe that God was "testing" Adam and Eve at all - but rather - He gave them everything they needed to inevitably decide when to enter into mortality.

If you believe that He was "testing" Adam and Eve then you would also need to believe that God sent the serpent to tempt Eve and that He told the serpent to lie.

Considering that Adam and Eve had no Knowledge of Good and Evil - therefore no way of understanding the concept of deception - they would have had no way of detecting the lie.

And considering that the Lord Jesus Christ was "foreordained before" and "slain from" the foundation of the world (1 Peter 1:19, Revelation 13:8) - it is clear that God the Father had planned on Adam and Eve partaking of the Fruit and therefore ensuring Mankind's need for a Savior and Redeemer.

Yawn!

I don't understand the question.

What I asked was in response to when you said: It would be immoral of God to allow people to determine what was right and wrong for themselves and then judge them based on His interpretation of Good and Evil.

Therefore, I really don't know how to make it easier other than saying: Even if it's supposed to be God's prerogative to determine and to interpret what is Good and Evil in the universe???? Although, I'm starting to see that the way we reason on things and process information is very different.

What is Good and what is Evil has already been determined by God - and because Adam and Eve partook of the Fruit - all Mankind can come to know what is Good and what is Evil as well.

Well, it looks like your God had a plan then. lol

If partaking of the Fruit gave arbitrary "Good and Evil" decided by an individual's personal morality - rather than objective "Good and Evil" determined by God - then it would be unfair of God to judge anyone based on objective "Good and Evil".

Your point of view is ridiculous... No wonder you didn't want to tell me what religion you are. lol

The Fruit gave to Adam and Eve Knowledge of Good and Evil - objective knowledge - not arbitrary.

The Fruit gave truth - not opinion.

lol Sorry, but at this point, I can only laugh at what you are saying. lol

What are you even talking about?

I made the claim that the Fruit didn't give Adam and Eve "an opinion" about what was Good or Evil - but that it gave them Knowledge of Good and Evil - objective truth.

I made an analogy - when I said "that would be like" - about God judging Mankind based on objective truth when all He gave them was opinion "would be like" making students study one subject (opinion about Good and Evil) but then testing and grading them on another (objective truth about Good and Evil).

I never said that Adam and Eve "studied" anything.

Sorry about that because it's been kinda hard making sense out of just about anything that you say.

How?

Please explain.

lol

It is my belief that they committed no sin in the Garden and that the concept of "original sin" is not supported by the Bible.

It is possible that they committed sin after they left the Garden - but the Genesis account does not record if they did.

I'm going to take another page out of your playbook and quote the New Testament.

2 Corinthians 11:3 I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. (biblehub.com)

2 Corinthians 11:3 I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. (biblehub.com)

Also, it is possible that A&E committed sin after they left the Garden, probably only by those of your religion (whom you are "unwilling" to name ) who have such an ill-conceived interpretation of scripture because I would say that the majority Christians and the majority of Bible scholars (whether or not they believe that the Genesis story is literal) interpret that A&E committed sin BEFORE they left the Garden... Oh, yeah, I forgot one more scripture:

21 The Lord God made for the man and his wife garments of skin, with which he clothed them. 22 Then the Lord God said: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil! Now, what if he also reaches out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life, and eats of it and lives forever? 23 The Lord God therefore banished him from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he had been taken. 24 He expelled the man, stationing the cherubim and the fiery revolving sword east of the garden of Eden, to guard the way to the tree of life.​

Genesis 3:21-24 NABRE - The LORD God made for the man and his - Bible Gateway​

Although, I am interested to see how you are going to get out of that one.

The ingestion of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Hmmm. So did the fruit have some sort of magical properties or ingredients in it?

A person needs knowledge in order to commit sin. They need to know that what they are doing is "bad".

If a person is unaware that what they are doing is "bad" - they are merely transgressing the Law - not committing sin.

Not only this - but the Law takes into account other mitigating circumstances - for example - killing someone in self-defense - you may have transgressed the Law against killing a human being - but you have not committed the sin of murder.

Before Adam and Eve partook of the Fruit - they had no Knowledge of Good and Evil - making them innocent like children before they reach the age of accountability - and unable to commit sin.

The Fruit not only gave them Knowledge - but it also began the mortal changes in their bodies.

So, you're saying that God spiked a tree and put poison in it ...and A&E eat from that tree, had their minds blown, and then ended up dying from it. Geeze! That must have been some powerful sheet that God put into that tree. LOL

Okay, I'm through. I'm not going to read the rest of your reply because it's just way too long and I think that I covered the essential points.

P.S. And as far as the apostle Paul goes, what I was referring to are in the verses that I quoted from the Corinthian books.

 

[David Davidovich]

my reaction -- geezzzz....maybe maybe and maybe maybe maybe

Well, at least you're not dogmatic and didn't say no no and no no no.

 

[David Davidovich]

I said, "the way I understand it is that God sets the standard for what's right or wrong, exemplified by the mandate to not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So God directed Adam to do certain things. What do you conclude from this?" And you answered in the above saying that's the common interpretation that you've seen among nearly all Christian groups...and then I asked you what you believe and you seemed to say you'll believe whatever seems relevant to you.

Okay, you're going to have to show me where I said that I'll believe whatever seems relevant to me.

But that of course doesn't answer the question about what the tree of the knowledge of good and evil represents insofar as you're concerned. But anyway, have a nice day. If you care to answer, please do so.

Well, I know that I generally don't read where two other people are conversing back and forth in a thread (because it's hard enough to keep up with the conversation that oneself is having with someone else), therefore, I have been repeating what you were asking about through several posts in my conversation with Fallen Prophet in this thread. But to answer your question directly, I interpret the tree of knowledge of good and evil the way that you stated in your first quote avbove.

Other than the goalposts keep changing, thanks again.

Sorry about that.

 

[YoursTrue]

Okay, you're going to have to show me where I said that I'll believe whatever seems relevant to me.



Well, I know that I generally don't read where two other people are conversing back and forth in a thread (because it's hard enough to keep up with the conversation that oneself is having with someone else), therefore, I have been repeating what you were asking about through several posts in my conversation with Fallen Prophet in this thread. But to answer your question directly, I interpret the tree of knowledge of good and evil the way that you stated in your first quote avbove.



Sorry about that.

It's been interesting in a way, not relevant to me due to the ambiguity of response, therefore I bid you to have a good day,!

 

[YoursTrue]

Well, at least you're not dogmatic and didn't say no no and no no no.

From that video, I see maybe, maybe, and maybe...So therefore, since I'm watching Shark Tank, I can say, "I'm out..." (Have a nice day...)

 

[Fallen Prophet]

And you don't use enough of them. Also, do I detect a disguised ad hominen? Because you know what they say about when people need to resort to them.



Well, here's another emoji. Yawn!



Well, I was just taking a page from your playbook.



Yawn!



What I asked was in response to when you said: It would be immoral of God to allow people to determine what was right and wrong for themselves and then judge them based on His interpretation of Good and Evil.

Therefore, I really don't know how to make it easier other than saying: Even if it's supposed to be God's prerogative to determine and to interpret what is Good and Evil in the universe???? Although, I'm starting to see that the way we reason on things and process information is very different.



Well, it looks like your God had a plan then. lol



Your point of view is ridiculous... No wonder you didn't want to tell me what religion you are. lol



lol Sorry, but at this point, I can only laugh at what you are saying. lol



Sorry about that because it's been kinda hard making sense out of just about anything that you say.



lol



I'm going to take another page out of your playbook and quote the New Testament.

2 Corinthians 11:3 I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. (biblehub.com)

2 Corinthians 11:3 I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. (biblehub.com)

Also, it is possible that A&E committed sin after they left the Garden, probably only by those of your religion (whom you are "unwilling" to name ) who have such an ill-conceived interpretation of scripture because I would say that the majority Christians and the majority of Bible scholars (whether or not they believe that the Genesis story is literal) interpret that A&E committed sin BEFORE they left the Garden... Oh, yeah, I forgot one more scripture:

21 The Lord God made for the man and his wife garments of skin, with which he clothed them. 22 Then the Lord God said: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil! Now, what if he also reaches out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life, and eats of it and lives forever? 23 The Lord God therefore banished him from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he had been taken. 24 He expelled the man, stationing the cherubim and the fiery revolving sword east of the garden of Eden, to guard the way to the tree of life.​

Genesis 3:21-24 NABRE - The LORD God made for the man and his - Bible Gateway​

Although, I am interested to see how you are going to get out of that one.



Hmmm. So did the fruit have some sort of magical properties or ingredients in it?



So, you're saying that God spiked a tree and put poison in it ...and A&E eat from that tree, had their minds blown, and then ended up dying from it. Geeze! That must have been some powerful sheet that God put into that tree. LOL

Okay, I'm through. I'm not going to read the rest of your reply because it's just way too long and I think that I covered the essential points.

P.S. And as far as the apostle Paul goes, what I was referring to are in the verses that I quoted from the Corinthian books.

You realize that you inaccurately accused me of using a "disguised ad hominem" - and then all you did was employ ad hominem attacks to get out of backing up anything you believe or addressing anything I said.

You knew that you were out of your league and you ran away.

Thanks for playing.

 

[rational experiences]

You realize that you inaccurately accused me of using a "disguised ad hominem" - and then all you did was employ ad hominem attacks to get out of backing up anything you believe or addressing anything I said.

You knew that you were out of your league and you ran away.

Thanks for playing.

I had a vision of humans standing in a
Group. Already shared on the forum about my story warning. I was the only one running ahead of them all.

Stated a vision.

I ran across the field.

I was born in January's end and January is water carrier. Warnings... it was visionary about life. Carriage of water.

I don't play strategic control games as one brother versus one brother as trade control richest men.

My warning said water at the moment was ahead of life's destruction by the game players cause...men of science.

Father's wArning American pie song was my psychic brother once a hells angels biker who said it was mine to advise the meaning. A Generation of minds lost in space. Because of life conscious sacrifice as sink holes.

....no time left to start again.

Gods mass O earth that used to support first man's consciousness was gone. Stated in the song.

The warning says mens mind...ghost busters chooses how and what form the destroyer comes in. Ghost host are men's images that predated historic as the cloud image itself.

Removed. Ghost busting.

As men are the destroyer machine reactor designer.

Two types. The new warning as it's futuristic predicted mass to return.

O an asteroid planet larger than the moon. As men of science predictive by at least 2000 years nuclear mass removal is always futuristic.... then cosmic returned event gained.

God earth format origins where mass of energy first came returned was the moon O by calculus terms of energy cosmic sun and mass holding.

O men's used calculus.

So it would be a planet asteroid greater than moons changed body that propulsed it at earth. Burning.

Or ice melt instant O UFO heavens mass accumulator falls instant release. Burning attack around world as cloud owner....then instant American fall out attack as the mark.

Origin scene of the crime of man's sciences origins. Is America. A crime A.

All about science of man's origin theist. First pyramid science on earth before science was practiced. As thesis a collider. As any cosmic theism is before science was practiced on earth.

Egyptian stories said evil men of science in India and America had arrived in Egypt after their lives were science destroyed. Meant old science of man's notified was returned to mens mind via heavens.. Advised.

Whose claim today is I can control cosmic mass aliens theme from planetary body masses......I want aliens to ground mass land by all American terms.

First origin of science on earth from cosmic.

Instant ice the saviour of life moment. Is earths God only.

Currently saviour model was based on earths coldest gas...owned exact by ice the saviour. Why our type of red celled and rock bone biology survives.

Men in science conscious was advised first and as confessed already. Man said that science was already using our life saviour. As ice mass allowed an updated temple pyramid version model nuclear reactor.

Knew already by thesis. Coldest. Ice kept gases water cold. Coldest as earths space had overheated. Then it began to melt. As men knew the ice god saviour was involved.

Father's warning.
All men as adults are father's spirit. Man adult gave himself sciences warning's. But as he also owned a self destructive human behaviour which is just about humans and not science.....the disorder..... he still proceeded with the reaction.

Men as theists advised men by behaviour do it anyway in full wisdom of causes historic as they are allowed by organisation.... says just human men.

Is the updated father of man new testimonial. Advised by world man community itself. As my father's spirit is dying. And you brother told me it was.

I know I've used three new pond liners. I covered it with shade cloth. The amount of water loss is not natural evaporation.

 

[David Davidovich]

It's been interesting in a way, not relevant to me due to the ambiguity of response, therefore I bid you to have a good day,!

So, when I said that "I interpret the tree of knowledge of good and evil the way that you stated in your first quote avbove"(where you said, "the way I understand it is that God sets the standard for what's right or wrong, exemplified by the mandate to not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil") is ambiguous to you? So, I guess you want me to spoon feed it to you... Okay, the way that *I* understand it is that God sets the standard for what's right or wrong, exemplified by the mandate to not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil,,, So is that better? Also, while we're at it, do you want me to tie your shoes and blow your nose? Have a good day.

 

[David Davidovich]

From that video, I see maybe, maybe, and maybe...So therefore, since I'm watching Shark Tank, I can say, "I'm out..." (Have a nice day...)

Byyyye! And don't let the door tap you on your way out.

 

[David Davidovich]

You realize that you inaccurately accused me of using a "disguised ad hominem" - and then all you did was employ ad hominem attacks to get out of backing up anything you believe or addressing anything I said.

You knew that you were out of your league and you ran away.

Thanks for playing.

No problem. And say hi to Donald and Marjorie for me. LOL

 

[rational experiences]

Man human thinker plus men humans group cult agreement all human science earth topics.

Theist of all terms human sciences.

From his man person first.

Today woman brain mind attacked so many times now learnt your ideas are scientists. Using man's knowledge.

Innocent minds life's are not scientists men and women.

Women's natural consciousness history displaced by evil man's choice. Machine plus reacted destroyed earth mass.

Bio consciousness had not belonged with destroyed earth mass.

Pretty basic human advice.

Men think women evil by human awareness only.

Women think men evil by human awareness only.

Natural bio history said father mother's genesis perfection as compared to our inheritance mutated life was taught as relative conscious advice.

Mind given fake advice about evil humans.

Bio identity changed by nuclear fallout changed human emotional chemistry. Why our behaviours changed.

Innocent first. Science just a humans choice proven evil by practice.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

No problem. And say hi to Donald and Marjorie for me. LOL

Who?

***STAFF EDIT***

 

[Truth in love]

I was doing some research on another topic that I had been thinking about, however, I read this quote in one of the articles that I was reading:

Even after the Fall, it makes sense that these weather variations were minimally different. But with the global Flood that destroyed the earth and rearranged continents and so on, the extremes become pronounced — we now have ice caps and extremely high mountains that were pushed up from the Flood (Psalm 104:8). We now have deserts that have extreme heat and cold and little water.​

click here: State of the Water Vapor Canopy Model | Answers in Genesis

Therefore, after reading that, what I would like to ask those who believe in the Genesis account about the flood: Why would the flood have been the best and the most efficient way for God to have cleansed the earth of the saturated evil that existed at that time? Considering all the extreme changes and consequences that are supposed to have occurred as a result of the flood.

For my 2 cents. It is well taught in the Bible that man must be baptized by water and also cleaned by fire (aka Holy Spirit).
Why not the earth also?
inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left, Isa. 24:6.

waters of Noah should no more go over, Isa. 54:9.

earth is burned at his presence, Nahum 1:5.

 

[rational experiences]

Men human theist pretended.
A theory is a humans pretend position first. As humans memory holy father holy mother first.

Pretending they know everything first then pretending against natural law as all presence that did exist.

Abstract by model places man as a theme the God creator pretending how he believed order existed from basic earth products conversions to self.

So his claim is now his human man consciousness he was using to thesis now existed before him. Lying.

As the intention was how to have all bodies removed from existing. Intent is Satanism first. And it's not direct it's inferred intention.

As his thesis was shifted to ground chemistry melt build machine. Machine then mind controlled as a machine. A man doubling a reactive earth mass plus gas knowledge heavens as a machine reaction.

Coercion he changes the topic and subject by his will. A theist. Just a human.

Which all humans were warned about the con man Sophist contrivances.

In the dictionary.

Once two conditions existed in one moment earths burning by returned rock mass asteroid star fall comets and meteors. Alight gas burning hits.

Earths mass pressure changed by heavens mass change. Earth put into a nuclear mass body conversion.

Realised when saviour body ice got sacrificed. Was when earth went into a four day carpenter tectonic earthquake. As ice had stopped earth body pressure changes in dinosaur life destruction.

Cooling mass the water body shifts flooding ended dinosaur life in a snap freeze. Then also an instant thaw.

Happened to first dinosaurs so their bodies type changed. Then second return attack all dinosaurs by another massive earth attack all died.

Ice the saviour by two equal yet opposing status a conversion process was a one of earth mass change. Science mind memory exactly notified of that incident.

So flooding is getting ready for deep ice mass land inheritance snap freeze...as it is first. Ice saviour body mass shift. As science says it's now owns the ice in science conversion.

So signs are the ground gets unnatural ice freezes as evidence.

Why science studies said once a huge forest lived destroyed under arctic ice mass.

Moses testimony......
Ice the saviour by body mass existed before science as temple pyramid nuclear science.

Small animal human life thawed out as Moses event re snap froze earth. Instant thaw was involved. Man of science says bio life can survive a snap freeze.

Where once animal life like a type of dinosaur like mammoths sabre tooth tigers died out. Only a small bio population existed after.

The thaw also instant changed body type.

Review law of natural earth land heavens. Is cosmic. No human science owns nor controls natural cosmic laws with earth history.

Ice mass is the saviour body in our heavens first. Body of the human life saviour keeps heavens holy and safe is direct. Its ice. Not a human man.

Melted.

Ice remassed back to origin mass yet shifted. Life and ice shifted.

No review to substantiate the shift as ice by mass was origin first. Before any human man used maths measures as human science.

Why the old testimonies were important as geological physical evidence was removed in ice melt then replaced in re snap freeze.

Was why they said you are not allowed to argue about old testimonies as science had destroyed most of the life on earth.

The cloud ark cooling had taken the oxygenated water bio lifes living support to reform clouds atop mountain. Cooled the tips ∆ to stop mountains falling into disintegration.

Life died by non oxygen water support.

So the study says. In new holy heavens as the gas spirit cooled Christ gas remassed was water then was held by pressure to ground.

Human cell oxygenated by mass of water healed.

The Lost life of human DNA in human babies life cell sacrificed returned. It was renewed.

Now if you're going to honour life's return its with a human healthy baby. No other fake teaching.

So is any human in reality especial?

No. Equal just humans.

Why did you begin to man self idolise then? As a human is an equal human always?

By definition I was returned to live my human life. As the heavenly body gave it back. Was special advice I am advised. Did not make you a special human. As it Wasn't survival it was evolution. Cooling heavens that supported it.

Our teaching the heavens keeps bio life holy. Life had to be sacrificed to teach us ...false method of teaching why the heavens of earth is holy to life support.

So not only did you idolise the living man. When he died you idolised clouds heavens reformation. By conditions water mass human life once owned taken off ground.

Isn't a holy act it was evil.

You still self idolised a human. Told not to.

So you now idolise clouds and humans yet the summary warning said don't self idolise as a humans warning was exact and known. Conscious self concepts changed by event.

The body mass ice was biologies saviour and not any man. Ever. Owned by earth the planet history.

As it was the human man who designed invented machines in our place of living.... bio oxygenated water life then had it heavenly attacked sacrificed by fall out.

The saviour body ice once again diminished saving us but was leaving us in biology as a sacrifice.

Science the man theist claim. My human brother is Satan. The theist. Tan meaning a human who would flog you to death physically and spiritually.

To be richest man in control of earths human trade.

Science equals he confessed by human thought only.... bio lifes early age death. I reasoned it in full knowledge.

Human life owns and lives experiences as the human biology and early age death isn't science.

Science summarises if I want heavenly use my machine has to be kept constantly extra cooled. Or it could overheat then blows up...known.

Ice is why it hadn't instantly blown up in first reaction. When ice melted and stopped cooling heavens gas water his machine status blew up. Known by the scientist and exactly advised.

By advice is our biology living by saviour ice. As it owns why gas is cooled and water is cooled.

So he studies cell bacterias biologies attack. Says if he understands why early age death still survived he could advise technology also. So our natural water life loss before is 100 year health life span.

He can now eradicate back to a common year life status he imposes. As his thesis I want to allow knowing I will cause cell health life sacrifice as long as technology is kept cooled.

My want is technologies use of ice cooling.

Already atmospheric changes overheated power plant as ice has melted. Saviour body already sacrificed.

All current early age death victims he has studied as a thesis will be life eradicated.

He says he thinks it's an okay status to cause as his machines are more important than life itself.

Is the reason why human legal testimonies were written. As earth had reacted. It's reaction isn't a fixed constant to say natural law. So it was human recorded as evidence of humans causes.

The machine being the only unnatural reason.

Father said if earth hadn't been cosmic attacked the garden nature with dinosaurs would still be living on earth.

As exact human proof human theists as human science lie. Non stop lie.

 

[David Davidovich]

Who?

***STAFF EDIT***

Well, if you don't know who they are... no wonder you're still a Republican. LOL

 

[rational experiences]

If science never existed before a human used inferred it to a machine reaction. Then God as an entity would be stated. By humans only living.

The planet sealed as rock.
A natural heavens
A garden nature body oxygenated our water.
Animals.
Humans a man and a woman.

No theory.
No theism.
No science.

Then a Thinking man the same man now today is acting out the Same position. As before. A theist about God earth.

Living man said once when no life existed on earth. Lied.

Places him theoretical by term a man about God word user described by human stories. Whilst everything does exist. Existing in every single diverse by billions of forms on earth.

The human each and any a self just a human position as one natural. Claiming I use the highest consciousness on earth as the human.

Not a poor human. Not a rich human. A natural human.

So a murdering threatening man brother a long time ago agreed by fear tactics to threaten spiritually meek family to get civilisation built.

Yet it couldn't keep him rich as his threat of murder started to wane as a threat in human abuse. We retaliated. So the need to use fear became a rich man's strategy.

So as he first places his thesis before anything existed thinking as just a man he first pretended man's false idolisation.

Of a man being the creator by a humans thesis. Pretend only.

As anything existing as a separate type had ended bodily as that separate type. To be completed. To be seen and also observed by a human man.

So as he needed to be kept rich he introduced invention in trade.

First position natural human man.
Theorising position false man god.

Third position he then pretends a machine and it's reactions are now his God. As science. So topic subject God shifts.

Earth nothing like his machine.
Earth not reacting as a machine.
Earth not naturally by cosmic law owning reaction inside machine.

Place of machines deity is a destroyed man's biology imaged history going the wrong way. Inside a machine. His human man's thesis.

How a man designed and destroyed a machine spirit by phenomena by his design an alien inside a machine.

As earth is mass.
The gases belonged present in cold empty space to be a gas not mass. A gas is non present as mass owns extra space instead.

He destroys mass first space owner historic to get a gas then removes the gas. Why it was removed out of earths heavens and empty opened space increased.

As if it didn't earths Rock would explode. As the balance was held in spaces womb position said the human scientist.

So first God position rock was holiest position and science never existed. Man was told never do science ever again after the earth's Jesus event.

Today everyone says we were warned the human science destroyer was going to try to destroy us. Pre warned.

Today we see it happening. Fully warned.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

Well, if you don't know who they are... no wonder you're still a Republican. LOL

I never claimed to be a Republican.

You never once supported the claims you made.

You never once offered evidence against my claims.

You did often try to mischaracterize what I said.

And most of what you had to offer was as hominem.

You should take time to figure yourself out.

 

[rational experiences]

Legal status imposed to govern a country was a business.

Who employed business people classified by business skills to fairly trade.

Elections for the people by the people was a corruption of governing. As personal skills already belongs to a natural human diverse thinker.

No order imposed ...no sanctions of cult group mentality either. Skilled humans by choice behaviour personal morality.

So each single business representative gave their best mutual human advice for governing. Mutual community family first.

Whereas corrupted representatives failed. By group order.

Trumps symbolic message government is a business first you might fail but if you don't apply correct business sense of fairness then you'll always fail.

Hence its based on family. Their ability to not be involved in corruption of party only policy and act as a business in trade should.

And any good business people supports its community.

A great business allows the family human to be supported. Is renowned for its human support.

In turn the positive uplifting human motivation to do right and good for the business is mutual.

Is just human observed reality.

 

[Hawkins]

Why would the flood have been the best and the most efficient way for God to have cleansed the earth of the saturated evil that existed at that time?

Without such an event we can't possibly know what God's Law could mean.

Law is applicable to humans and angels alike. 1/3 angels will fall in the Final Judgment as predicted. Under the influence of these 1/3 bad angels, then no humans can pass the Final Judgment. As a result, the purpose of the existence of humans together with planet earth is defeated as not a single human can pass the judgment to reach Heaven. After valid witnessing is made till the point of Noah, the whole world shall be destroyed as a whole, as it only produces sin while its purpose of producing human souls is defeated.

However, with Jesus' self-sacrifice to be made at some point in humanity, it makes it possible that humans are judged by covenants instead of Law (i.e., the set applicable to both angels and humans). A covenant remains valid as long as it can still distinguish the righteous from the wicked, the saved from the unsaved. God will provide an update when He foresees such a covenant may fail to do so. A new covenant thus will be in place such that the righteous/saved can be told apart from the wicked/unsaved again by this new covenant.

In short, the above cannot be made clear without the Noah story recorded in the Bible.