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Why would people believe in something which are not proven?

Is it rational if one believe in something which are not proven?


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Cooky

Veteran Member
Faith - strong belief in something which are not proven.
Proven - demonstrated by evidence or argument to be true or existing.
Believe - accept that (something) is true.
Belief - an acceptance that something exists or is true.

(1) If something is not proven, as in not demonstrated by evidence or argument to be true or existing, why would someone believe that something is true/exist?

(2) Why would someone have strong belief in something which are not proven?

(3) Is it rational if one believe in something which are not proven?

(4) Is it rational if one have strong belief in something which are not proven?

(5) What reason can cause one to believe something is true/exist?

(6) What reason will cause one to believe something is true/exist?

Edit:
Definition of Faith:
1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something
2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.

(I might not be participate in this discussion, so please feel free to discuss/debate with other people here.)

We're trying to make sense of this thing called life -why we have a conscious understanding of who we are, and what our future holds. It seems cold, that nature would allow a creature to be smart enough to acknowledge it's own imminent death here, so we hope for justice in repairing this natural flaw, with the hope of everlasting life with a God of Justice through hope and compassion.

...Otherwise, it all seems unfair and too cruel.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Of course it's rational..! To hope for Justice against this otherwise natural flaw and unfairness in life.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Why would people believe in something which are not proven?

Life starts with trust/faith/belief in something and it is but natural to do so.
One should continue doing so unless it is proven wrong. Isn't it reasonable, please?
Regards
 

McBell

Unbound
The Bible is evidence of belief in deity, and a theist could consider that to be sufficient evidence for their own belief.
Yes.
That is my point.
I have not yet met a theist who does not have any evidence for their beliefs.
 

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
You cant believe in something and It not be true, and it you know something is true you in turn believe it. Faith is a instinctual feeling.
 

McBell

Unbound
You cant believe in something and It not be true,
People used to believe the world was flat,
That the sun revolved around the Earth,
That horse hairs left in rain barrels turned into worms,
that tomatoes were poisonous,


People believe all manner of things that are not true.
 

McBell

Unbound
So you deem the Bible to be sufficient evidence, but not when it's used by a theist, right?
What are you talking about?

I suspect you are misunderstanding what I have written.

What is it you think "I have not yet met a theist who does not have any evidence for their beliefs." means?
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
What are you talking about?
I said "The Bible is evidence of belief in deity, and a theist could consider that to be sufficient evidence for their own belief."

You said "Yes".

Therefore you agree that the Bible is evidence of belief in deity.
 

McBell

Unbound
I said "The Bible is evidence of belief in deity, and a theist could consider that to be sufficient evidence for their own belief."

You said "Yes".

Therefore you agree that the Bible is evidence of belief in deity.
Yes, for those who use the Bible as evidence for God, it is evidence for God.

Now how about you explain the part you skipped over:
but not when it's used by a theist, right?​

I have to ask you to explain this part to me because it is pretty much the exact opposite of what I said.

I do note that you completely failed to address this part:
"What is it you think "I have not yet met a theist who does not have any evidence for their beliefs." means?"​
 

SoyLeche

meh...
What are you talking about?

I suspect you are misunderstanding what I have written.

What is it you think "I have not yet met a theist who does not have any evidence for their beliefs." means?
I think your double negative is throwing him off.
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
God, deity, it amounts tot he same thing.
Unless you are going to try going elitist.
"God" can simply be a religious name for an idea. Deity is some kind of divine being. When you're talking evidence it's important to be unambiguous.
 
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