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Wikileaks Attacking during an Election

idav

Being
Premium Member
I don't know about others but it seems some unnamed source does not want Democrats or maybe specifically Hillary to take office. If this were about Hillary, would this source wait until he election to get any damning evidence out on the public. When Assange is interviewed he says he will not name his source and people speculate Russia but whoever it is clearly has a partisan agenda. He says he is about truth but this is clearly times for maximum effect, especially with a very slow methodical release of info.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-julian-assange-hillary-arrest-biggest-leak/

I like truth as much as the next person but I've seen wikileaks as an affront against citizens general privacy. Now perhaps it's not wikileaks, they are the guys that say NSA has everyone's internet history, and somehow this turns into Hillarys history being released about adult diaper searches. NSA and or FBI themselves could be the source or even people within the organization and would be rather convenient to blame Russia. Plenty of people on our side hate Dems and hate Hillary

Now I am not much for conspiracy but it seems could never be more apparent.

Why are we waiting for an election to reveal truth much like the FBI ill timed look into Hillarys emails just cause they have the intel.

Hillary is not phased she wants to know what the info FBI is looking into just like everyone else.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-email-discovery/ar-AAjxwWt?OCID=ansmsnnews11

We will have to see if anyone has more info than personal non criminal web searches someone has done.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If wikileaks do have information to get Clinton arrested, they really could not have timed it worse to either keep Trump out of the White House or left it so late that the Democrats could get another candidate for the election. It would be an disaster for American democracy.

I'm going to reserve judgement though. The e-mail thing has been bubbling away for months so "I'll believe it when I see it".
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
I don't know about others but it seems some unnamed source does not want Democrats or maybe specifically Hillary to take office. If this were about Hillary, would this source wait until he election to get any damning evidence out on the public. When Assange is interviewed he says he will not name his source and people speculate Russia but whoever it is clearly has a partisan agenda. He says he is about truth but this is clearly times for maximum effect, especially with a very slow methodical release of info.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-julian-assange-hillary-arrest-biggest-leak/

I like truth as much as the next person but I've seen wikileaks as an affront against citizens general privacy. Now perhaps it's not wikileaks, they are the guys that say NSA has everyone's internet history, and somehow this turns into Hillarys history being released about adult diaper searches. NSA and or FBI themselves could be the source or even people within the organization and would be rather convenient to blame Russia. Plenty of people on our side hate Dems and hate Hillary

Now I am not much for conspiracy but it seems could never be more apparent.

Why are we waiting for an election to reveal truth much like the FBI ill timed look into Hillarys emails just cause they have the intel.

Hillary is not phased she wants to know what the info FBI is looking into just like everyone else.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-email-discovery/ar-AAjxwWt?OCID=ansmsnnews11

We will have to see if anyone has more info than personal non criminal web searches someone has done.

Same foundation remains that someone(s) want to expose Hillary, expose the potential truth.

Whether it's from the inside with a fake allegiance, whether it's another country, whether it's not even another country and some independent person(s.) Whether it's both, or all of the above...all we can do is speculate and make the best judgements or non-judgements we can.

Regardless, whether she meant no harm, knew or didn't know what she was doing...it's inevitable that she brought this upon herself.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
If wikileaks do have information to get Clinton arrested, they really could not have timed it worse to either keep Trump out of the White House or left it so late that the Democrats could get another candidate for the election. It would be an disaster for American democracy.
I agree and the timing of the leaks of "truth" is very one sided since the hacks happened months ago.
I'm going to reserve judgement though. The e-mail thing has been bubbling away for months so "I'll believe it when I see it".
Agreed.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Regardless, whether she meant no harm, knew or didn't know what she was doing...it's inevitable that she brought this upon herself.
I take more issue with the sabotaging of an election process. Truth is great but being timed at a point when only Hillary has a shot for Dems.
Why didn’t she release the facts at the time of asking instead of destroying them?

http://therightscoop.com/fbi-hillary-didnt-just-delete-her-emails-she-bleached-them/
That "bleaching" stuff is misinformation. How do people have emails that have been so thoroughly destroyed? People clean there devices after use at work, that is standard procedure.
 

McBell

Admiral Obvious
I don't know about others but it seems some unnamed source does not want Democrats or maybe specifically Hillary to take office. If this were about Hillary, would this source wait until he election to get any damning evidence out on the public. When Assange is interviewed he says he will not name his source and people speculate Russia but whoever it is clearly has a partisan agenda. He says he is about truth but this is clearly times for maximum effect, especially with a very slow methodical release of info.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-julian-assange-hillary-arrest-biggest-leak/

I like truth as much as the next person but I've seen wikileaks as an affront against citizens general privacy. Now perhaps it's not wikileaks, they are the guys that say NSA has everyone's internet history, and somehow this turns into Hillarys history being released about adult diaper searches. NSA and or FBI themselves could be the source or even people within the organization and would be rather convenient to blame Russia. Plenty of people on our side hate Dems and hate Hillary

Now I am not much for conspiracy but it seems could never be more apparent.

Why are we waiting for an election to reveal truth much like the FBI ill timed look into Hillarys emails just cause they have the intel.

Hillary is not phased she wants to know what the info FBI is looking into just like everyone else.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-email-discovery/ar-AAjxwWt?OCID=ansmsnnews11

We will have to see if anyone has more info than personal non criminal web searches someone has done.
Information is powerful.
Especially when timed just right.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
I take more issue with the sabotaging of an election process. Truth is great but being timed at a point when only Hillary has a shot for Dems.

That "bleaching" stuff is misinformation. How do people have emails that have been so thoroughly destroyed? People clean there devices after use at work, that is standard procedure.

It's really a shot at Hillary, not as much the Dems in my opinion. There are many reasonable Dems. But I understand how it has its effects in the party as a whole.

You just said what Hillary said and I commend her for this: the public needs to know. The public needs information released, the election is a big deal.

I think you're referring to Bleachblit, the software program. Not actual bleach.
 
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Jumi

Well-Known Member
The "bleaching" is secure deletion using bleachbit an open source software you use when you want to make things unrecoverable, well except maybe for file recovery specialists with time and equipment... It's kind of funny that the program used to delete the requested mails has Hillary on their page:

https://www.bleachbit.org/
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
The "bleaching" is secure deletion using bleachbit an open source software you use when you want to make things unrecoverable, well except for file recovery specialists with time and equipment... It's kind of funny that the program used to delete the requested mails has Hillary on their page:

https://www.bleachbit.org/

Wow, that is rather humorous :). I never knew she was on the cover girl for their page. Haha.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Information is powerful.
Especially when timed just right.
No doubt on that. The list of possible enemies of Dems and or Hillary is pretty large. Could even me Islamists who would love to see US reverse our inequality decisions. However intelligence seems pretty sure they know who hacked the DNC, "hard to tell but not impossible". Its there job to know who is hacking any given system.

It certainly isn't about truth but about an attempt to rig an election.
 

McBell

Admiral Obvious
Wow, that is rather humorous :). I never knew she was on the cover girl for their page. Haha.
A handy bit of advertising material really.
I mean, they are pretty much saying that there software is so good at making files unrecoverable that not only is the Federal Government having problems, but also the hackers at Wikileaks.....
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
No doubt on that. The list of possible enemies of Dems and or Hillary is pretty large. Could even me Islamists who would love to see US reverse our inequality decisions. However intelligence seems pretty sure they know who hacked the DNC, "hard to tell but not impossible". Its there job to know who is hacking any given system.

It certainly isn't about truth but about an attempt to rig an election.

There is then rigging accusations from both sides. One side just uses more proper subtle terms for the word "rigging" which can have many interpretations.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
If the devices had only been cleaned casually, most of the information would have been recoverable.

Until all this kicked off I had never heard of BleachBit and I still don’t own a copy of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit

Why didn’t she release the facts at the time of asking instead of destroying them?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Go Wikileaks!
Why shouldn't they disclose the skeletons in DNC closets?
This is their business, & we as a country are better off with
light shed upon governmental misfeasance & malfeasance.

Note also that Hillary's ally, Obama, is doing what he can to
attack them for whistleblowing. If Assange takes this personally,
this is his right to work against this duo. Note too that the DNC has
its own attack dogs, who have been caught plotting violence at
Trump rallies. Relatively speaking, Assange is taking the high road.

Hillary's latest email eruption wasn't even due to Wikileaks, but
rather to fellow Democrat, Anthony Weiner
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I think you're referring to Bleachblit, the software program. Not actual bleach.
Clintons response on "wiping" the server was rather humurous but I've seen people that ignorant of computer terminology. Especially considering her statements to FBI and her handling of emails, I believe she might have actually been that ignorant.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
No doubt on that. The list of possible enemies of Dems and or Hillary is pretty large. Could even me Islamists who would love to see US reverse our inequality decisions. However intelligence seems pretty sure they know who hacked the DNC, "hard to tell but not impossible". Its there job to know who is hacking any given system.

It certainly isn't about truth but about an attempt to rig an election.

The deaths of Ashe, Rich, and Montano seem a little suspicious too.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Until all this kicked off I had never heard of BleachBit and I still don’t own a copy of it.
You can download it for free for Windows or OS X if you're curious. It's handy for making free space on your computer, deleting temporary files and such. It also has that "shredder" functionality where you can delete a file to be unrecoverable by normal means.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
A handy bit of advertising material really.
I mean, they are pretty much saying that there software is so good at making files unrecoverable that not only is the Federal Government having problems, but also the hackers at Wikileaks.....
Right thats what makes me suspicious that her emails were actually wiped. Wikileaks sources would have the same issue. Then again all you really need to do is hack the emails of everyone corresponding with Hillary, and FBI did state that people Hillary was corresponding with were in fact hacked. Since with emails "it takes two to tango".
 
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