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Great topic, Becky. My answer could go either way, actually. I don't believe that good intentions without some effort are going to count for much. On the other hand, I do believe that God knows our hearts. He knows if we're sincere or not (in other words, He knows if our intentions are truly good), and I think He probably takes into account our intentions, even if we don't always succeed in what we intend to do.beckysoup61 said:
- Will one receive eternal life on the baiss of his/her good intentions?
- Why or why not?
beckysoup61 said:
- Will one receive eternal life on the baiss of his/her good intentions?
- Why or why not?
adilrockstar said:My beliefs are that you can only be allowed into heaven if you accept Christ sacrifice. That is why he died for us, so we could go to heaven.
beckysoup61 said:So what about the 5th century Mongolian girl who never heard of Jesus Christ? Or the mental incapacitated 43-year old man? Or the little boy who was abused by his preist and refuses to accept Jesus Christ because of what was ingrained in him and done to him at a young age? Or the 23 year old Seventh Day Adventist who thought they were worshipping Jesus Christ sincerely in their hearts?
Is your God going to condemn all these people to hell because of the bagged they carried in this earthly life? Is that how your God works?
adilrockstar said:I thought we had the "same" God?
adilrockstar said:I though you were a Christian?
adilrockstar said:I thought we believed the same?
You claim Him as God don't you? Then He is "your God".adilrockstar said:Why is He "your God"?
In short, an emphatic "No." In fact, the two are not even related. In essence, it is your interactions with others that will keep you in the "spiritual wading pool". In no way does it affect your overall inherent qualities.beckysoup61 said:
- Will one receive eternal life on the basis of his/her good intentions?
- Why or why not?
beckysoup61 said:We do.
I am.
In a manner of speaking
You claim Him as God don't you? Then He is "your God".
Pardon me?adilrockstar said:You are very good at getting your foot out of your mouth. But I see very clearly. You are only fooling yourself.
Pardus said:If God doesn't accept me, he's a tyrrant, i don't care for tyrrants.
beckysoup61 said:
- Will one receive eternal life on the baiss of his/her good intentions?
- Why or why not?
I don't believe so. I tend to see the concept of 'eternal life' as inherently contradictory, and while I usually gravitate towards contradictions it does sound like an absurd and unpleasant one. Besides, I wouldn't define my beliefs as including an 'afterlife' in the first place, partly due to a lack of supporting evidence, and I'm doubtful as to whether one can draw such a simple and complete correlation between any two seperate objects.beckysoup61 said:
- Will one receive eternal life on the baiss of his/her good intentions?
- Why or why not?
Katzpur said:Great topic, Becky. My answer could go either way, actually. I don't believe that good intentions without some effort are going to count for much. On the other hand, I do believe that God knows our hearts. He knows if we're sincere or not (in other words, He knows if our intentions are truly good), and I think He probably takes into account our intentions, even if we don't always succeed in what we intend to do.
Hola!Cordoba said:Hello Nordic
There is a glimpse of supporting evidence for an afterlife from NDEs
The way I see NDEs is that it's proving that humn beings are more than just a body: we are body and soul
Here are 2 cases of scientific research done on NDEs in the UK & Holland, which may be of interest:
http://www.mikepettigrew.com/afterlife/html/dutch_study.html
The Dutch study was published in the prestigious UK medical magazine (The Lancet)
Now, while it would be churlish for me to reject any arguments they present because of our differing viewpoints, particulary as I read this article with my own prejudices which would filter my understanding of it appropriately, it does bear to remember that any information this site presents will be partial and aimed at convincing others towards a particular position on this issue.It is our strong desire that our efforts will have the affect of generating interest in Afterlife Exploration and assist many in overcoming their fears of death.
While this indicates scientific interest, it does not indicate scientific worth.In December 15, 2001, the highly respected international medical journal, The Lancet, published a 13-year study of NDEs observed in 10 different Dutch hospitals.
For example, in the past some scientists have asserted that the NDE must be simply a hallucination brought on by the loss of oxygen to the brain [called "anoxia"] after the heart has stopped beating. This study casts doubt on that theory, in the words of its chief investigator, cardiologist Pim van Lommel, MD, "Our results show that medical factors cannot account for the occurrence of NDE. All patients had a cardiac arrest, and were clinically dead with unconsciousness resulting from insufficient blood supply to the brain. In those circumstances, the EEG (a measure of brain electrical activity) becomes flat, and if CPR is not started within 5-10 minutes, irreparable damage is done to the brain and the patient will die. According to the theory that NDE is caused by anoxia, all patients in our study should have had an NDE, but only 18% reported having an NDE... There is also a theory that NDE is caused psychologically, by the fear of death. But only a very small percentage of our patients said they had been afraid seconds before their cardiac arrest -- it happened too suddenly for them to realize what was occurring. More patients than the frightened ones reported NDEs."
During those follow-up interviews (2 years and 8 years later), the scientists assessed the patients' attitudes about several key issues in life -- fear of death, acceptance of others, interest in spirituality, and the like. On 13 such issues they found substantial, statistically significant differences between the NDErs and the non-NDErs. For example, NDErs had become much more empathic and accepting of others since their NDE than had the non-NDErs. And NDErs had become both more appreciative of the ordinary things of life and much less afraid of death than had the non-NDErs.
beckysoup61 said:
- Will one receive eternal life on the baiss of his/her good intentions?
- Why or why not?
Nordicßearskin said:In essence, I cannot accept the article's claims that NDE's prove the existence of an afterlife