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Will the United States Eat Itself to Death?

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
I intend the title of this thread as figurative, not literal. I am really interested in reading thoughts on whether or not forum members believe that the quality of life, generally speaking, in the United States, or elsewhere, is at any risk of decline, or perhaps is already in decline, due to a culture of corporate expansion and plutocratic tendencies? Hence, is it possible that our avaricious, materialistic culture that seems to reward growth and expansion of insensitive corporate titans topple like a weird, inverted, top-heavy pyramid?

And I am not necessarily referring to a concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. Although that certainly could be a disastrous result of such tendencies.

No, what I am personally seeing is a decline in service and products due to less accountability from manufacturers and retailers because they are a part of a corporate structure that operates mostly in oblivion to customer needs and criticisms.

For example, the convenient store nearest my office, the one most accessible to me during the day, has never, and I mean they've absolutely NEVER, sold me a cold soft drink. To me, it seems it shouldn't be a huge challenge to keep the soft drinks in their coolers cold, but for some reason, this place simply cannot manage to achieve such an ambitious goal. I have decided to boycott, to simply forego this place of business because they obviously have no concern for the needs and concerns of their customers. They have continually, over the course of a year or more, provided subpar service/products and I simply don't feel they should be rewarded for doing so.

However, I really feel like the practical results of my decision in this matter will be to cause me to go out of my way for a cold soft drink, while the store in question will continue to provide poor quality service/products. Nothing really changes, except I am forced to travel an extra couple of blocks to get a cold drink. No big deal. And the store isn't really affected by one or a handfull of customers leaving dissatisfied when the store itself is apart of a corporate entity that suffers nothing noticeable by losing me and maybe a few other customers.

But I feel this lack of attention to customer care evidences something more substantively wrong, and perhaps even ultimately destructive, in our mercantile culture, perhaps an ambivelance extending beyond the mercantile arena.

Am I just unduly bitter over drinking a warm orange soda for lunch?

Or do other people see a trend emerging, perhaps a trend that emerged long ago and is still worsening, wherein corporate giants that are able to so easily influence governmental policy becoming larger and larger, and more and more desensitized to individuals needs and concerns that overall quality of life, at least for most people, actually experiences a decline?
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Seriously, I have noticed drastic declines in customer service in my lifetime. Albeit, this is somewhat dependent on where you live. However, it seems to me that this is primarily because people just don't give a **** about doing an acceptable job, let alone a good one.

I worked in fast food and retail when I was a teenager, and it's a rather crappy job for little pay. When I started working at McDonald's at 15, I was getting paid 3.65 an hour. However, I still did a good job, and was friendly to customers.

Certainly, as an adult, it's more disheartening to be working for little pay, but the attitude which makes you not care about your work, is the same one which is going to keep you working for minimum wage for the rest of your life.
 

Duck

Well-Known Member
Eliot,

I understand your bitterness about the orange soda. Few things are quite as dissatisfying as warm orange soda.

A question about the store, is it very busy? When I worked at a convenience store, lo! these many years ago (for the same minimum wage ATS references), the store policy and manning (and for that matter business volume) prevented restocking of the coolers more often than the end of the shift and the configuration of the cooler shelves prevented easy rearranging of stock to ensure cold beverages at the front. Not that orange soda is typically a hot selling item, but is it possible that you just make your purchase after the restocking time?
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
Eliot,

I understand your bitterness about the orange soda. Few things are quite as dissatisfying as warm orange soda.

A question about the store, is it very busy? When I worked at a convenience store, lo! these many years ago (for the same minimum wage ATS references), the store policy and manning (and for that matter business volume) prevented restocking of the coolers more often than the end of the shift and the configuration of the cooler shelves prevented easy rearranging of stock to ensure cold beverages at the front. Not that orange soda is typically a hot selling item, but is it possible that you just make your purchase after the restocking time?


I don't think the problem is caused by store traffic. I understand what you're saying. I too worked in convenient store when I was younger, and I could understand if the place was always busy. But I don't think that is the problem.

I think ATS put his finger on something important. I may be approaching the problem from the wrong end of the spectrum. Maybe the problem doesn't stem from corporate insensitivity but from employee ambivalence. Perhaps individual workers feel less of a connection to their employers and therefore less obligation to perform.

At one time, in this country at least, people went to work for GM or Ford or Hasbrough, or whomever, and that was their job for life. They took pride in working their job and they took pride in their company. It is more of a modern trend for employees to move from job to job several times in their work history now. And perhaps this makes individual workers dismissive when it comes to customer service and product quality. Many people are just doing enough to keep their current job 'til they find a better one.

So, does the problem lie with uncaring corporate giants or with self-serving, apathetic employees just doing enough to get by?

Either way, I'm still ticked off about my warm orange soda, and I personally believe it signifies the end of civilization as we know it.
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
Eliot,

I understand your bitterness about the orange soda. Few things are quite as dissatisfying as warm orange soda.

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fact: fanta was invented for the Nazi party
Drinking fanta encourages the killing of kittens, homosexuals, midgets, Jews and people from wyoming
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
fact: fanta was invented for the Nazi party
Drinking fanta encourages the killing of kittens, homosexuals, midgets, Jews and people from wyoming


I certainly wouldn't want to be implicated in the killing of midgets, kittens, or homosexuals, but I have to admit, it was a Fanta soda that I purchased this afternoon for lunch. Of course, I don't know anybody in Wyoming, so whatever.
 
In my old home, there was a grocery nearby that I frequently visited. I would ride my bike to this grocery, passing many other potential stores on the way because this particular store I was aiming for had the best products, customer service, and COLD SODA for the bike ride home. This store was a co-op. You had to pay a membership fee to buy items at a less inflated price, and things weren't necessarily cheap but, there was always a very knowledgeable person to talk to if you needed anything answered. I think there is something to the co-op (erately) owned businesses. I have only experienced two but both of them were god-like among all the other spending places I've been.

Eliot, maybe you should purchase the corner store you are referring to and show them how a real business is run. COLD SODAS UP FRONT COLD SODAS RIGHT
HERE
 
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