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Will there be a one world government controlling the population of people one day ?

Stevicus

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Just the Secretary of the Treasury, not any of the other cabinet heads?

No, the other cabinet heads, too. I also favor the idea of making the CIA Director and the Joint Chiefs of Staff electable positions. And the Supreme Court and Speaker of the House. The best way to preserve and protect democracy is to expand it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
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No, it's not impossible, but without a robust system of checks and balances in place, there is greater susceptibility for corruption.
Honestly this diffidence is due to centuries of anti-socialist indoctrination that has been inculcated in American students' minds since they were kids.
Here there is a free universal healthcare system and it works perfectly.

It means that all the public money is spent well.
 

Stevicus

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Honestly this diffidence is due to centuries of anti-socialist indoctrination that has been inculcated in American students' minds since they were kids.
Here there is a free universal healthcare system and it works perfectly.

It means that all the public money is spent well.

It's mainly just from observation of history and the behavior of politicians who are in bed with capitalists. The one thing that can slightly work in the people's favor is that none of these top level leaders really trust each other all that much.

Here's a scene from The Formula which you might find interesting.

Human beings, my friend, are a very complex paradox. Very, very dangerous. They don't wanna' be leaders, they wanna' be followers. I mean, they... they can't wait to find some nut, who they think is just wonderful, to tell them what to do. And they all wanna' be brought under control.

 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's mainly just from observation of history and the behavior of politicians who are in bed with capitalists. The one thing that can slightly work in the people's favor is that none of these top level leaders really trust each other all that much.

Here's a scene from The Formula which you might find interesting.

Human beings, my friend, are a very complex paradox. Very, very dangerous. They don't wanna' be leaders, they wanna' be followers. I mean, they... they can't wait to find some nut, who they think is just wonderful, to tell them what to do. And they all wanna' be brought under control.

I would like to know something about history curricula in primary school and secondary school, in the US, which I have never understood.
Do your kids study European history? Like feudal system, absolutism, French revolution?
:)
Thank you.
 

Stevicus

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I would like to know something about history curricula in primary school and secondary school, in the US, which I have never understood.
Do your kids study European history? Like feudal system, absolutism, French revolution?
:)
Thank you.

It varies from district to district, although my recollection is that history was very America-centric, although it's kind of spotty at the younger levels. Unless someone truly has an interest in it or makes it their professional field of study, I don't think too many Americans have that firm a grasp on history - even their own history.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
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It varies from district to district, although my recollection is that history was very America-centric, although it's kind of spotty at the younger levels. Unless someone truly has an interest in it or makes it their professional field of study, I don't think too many Americans have that firm a grasp on history - even their own history.
It's a given it's a system greatly focusing on math and science which are much more useful than subjects like history and philosophy.
I guess many teenagers here are bothered by the amount of history they have to learn here.
But the goal is that, in my opinion, kids learn how Europeans got rid of aristocracy through revolutions and revolts and that shapes our minds since we are babies.
In the sense that in the society everyone must be okay, and must be ensured a minimum. I don't find a logic in tolerating that a single person has 10 mansions whereas so many people live in the street in California. All in the same city, sometimes.
 

rocala

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There seems to be a lot of concern about the short comings of government in such a super state. Imagining a global nation, I have always thought of it as being a very federal affair.

On the whole, such things seem to work well. The U.S. Canada, Australia, Italy, Germany and the U.K. have all handled a degree of unification pretty well, or so it appears.
 

Stevicus

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It's a given it's a system greatly focusing on math and science which are much more useful than subjects like history and philosophy.
I guess many teenagers here are bothered by the amount of history they have to learn here.
But the goal is that, in my opinion, kids learn how Europeans got rid of aristocracy through revolutions and revolts and that shapes our minds since we are babies.
In the sense that in the society everyone must be okay, and must be ensured a minimum. I don't find a logic in tolerating that a single person has 10 mansions whereas so many people live in the street in California. All in the same city, sometimes.

I think some American leaders may have gotten into a panic when the Bolsheviks took over in Russia in 1917. They had an ongoing fear of any political movement or ideology which favored the working classes. Even the U.S. labor movement was considered a threat, which they fought just as violently as with socialism. However, there were enough capitalists who ostensibly realized that dealing with non-communist labor unions was preferable to a full-blown socialist revolution. As a result, the U.S. government under FDR and a few of his successors brought about numerous reforms and social programs, which had the effect of bettering the standard of living for Americans overall.

But they still had this ongoing fear of communism, which led to a massive waste of resources and lives on an international boondoggle we called "the Cold War." And, as protesters in the 1960s and 70s started to realize more and more just how dishonest it truly was, things started to shift. The 80s saw a backlash against "bleeding heart liberalism" (which included the peaceniks) and a ramping up of Cold War rhetoric and American global military aggression, which has still continued to this day.

I would agree that, if Americans knew history better, they might look at world events from a more informed vantage point, which could lead to wiser decisions at election time. This really crosses both sides of the spectrum.

As for me, just like the band on the Titanic, I will keep playing music until the very end. :)
 

danieldemol

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I would like to see a global progressive tax system and this would require a minimal form of world government elected by the people to prevent capitalists of extreme wealth simply hiding their wealth off-shore to evade taxes, however it seems to me at the present time at least impossible as their are vast majorities of people who would use a global government for the purpose of enforcing theocracy in my view.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
This is a favorite of conspiracy theorists but is it truly possible that this could happen one day in the future a new world order ? And if it is true then how will this one world government be implemented and will it be successful ?

I don't see it happening. Certainly not in the near future.

I think eventually, the closest we will get is something like to the UN having some type of world government akin to the EU or alike. With all member states retaining their sovereignty to a certain extent. I also think the entire world would need to go through some extra turmoil for that to happen, to convince everybody that it's probably a good idea to tackle certain issues in a "central" global level. However, there would be no place in such for dictators and authoritarian forms of rule.
So this is why I consider it to be either a utopia or something in the distant future.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
No, world government is a pipedream that goes against human nature.

I think that's a silly statement.
The further back in history you go, the more splintered the world was.
The trend of humanity going forward most definitely is the unification of tribes into ever bigger groups.

Tribalism is a primitive mentality which in general today primarily only inhibits progress and peace.
 

I Am Hugh

Researcher
This is a favorite of conspiracy theorists but is it truly possible that this could happen one day in the future a new world order ? And if it is true then how will this one world government be implemented and will it be successful ?

I don't believe the conspiratorial possibility of a one world government but I do believe there will be one when Jehovah God destroys all world governments and sets up his own kingdom.
 
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