I have heard talk of another Muslim Prophet recently, it had to do with the end times.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me please?
Can anyone shed some light on this for me please?
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Will there be another Muslim prophet after Mohammed PBUH?
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outhouse
Atheistically
There is no telling what these people will come up with. The leader of ISIS is using islam to bring his people back to the 7th century. That is probably who we are dealing with now.
Look at paasurrey
He follows one from roughly a hundred years ago blindly.
What once was the center of education and knowledge globally! was ruined by a bad iman, and the cultures have never recovered. Because of the required Fanaticism and Fundamentalism they are all easily led astray because of a ancient book of mythology that is not clear and they ALL follow blindly.
Sectarianism, If none of them have any accountability for the wrongs created by the book and want to kill each other over interpretation, it only takes one individual to claim he has the right interpretation and they will all follow blindly Rick once they murder each other down to one sect.
Ignoring the snarkiness, al Mahdi is accepted by some Muslims not just the Ahmadiyya and by others such as the Baha'i. List of Mahdi claimants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia has a list of those who have claimed that status.
Isn't it a well-accepted part of standard Muslim doctrine (both Shia and Sunni) that they are waiting for the eventual return of Jesus and the coming of the Mahdi?
Not the Mahdi - there are some that claim that's "weak" Hadith meaning lack of good historical evidence.
As far as Jesus goes, Muslims will have to speak about how the Quran should be interpreted but my reading indicates that many do indeed associate the return of Jesus with the end times.
Seeing how there is hardly any way of demonstrating that he wasn't, it seems that it will have to be taken on faith.
Nevertheless, there is no dispute that he is at the very least acknowledged as a Prophet by the Muslims, so the question remains unchanged.
Nevertheless, there is no dispute that he is at the very least acknowledged as a Prophet by the Muslims, so the question remains unchanged.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You are welcome to but it would never occur to me to take it on faith.
That is an important distinction, Luis. Imho, non-Muslims should always refer to Muhammad as simply, Muhammad, as to promote the idea that he was a prophet is to commit theological suicide for the disbeliever.
outhouse
Atheistically
Love ya brother Luis, but your factually in error.
Showing how he factually plagiarized mythology and claimed it as real, not knowing history would later reveal his mistakes, makes this open and shut case for another warrior pedophile with blood on his hands trying to control others with his beliefs as a political tool.
Yes I am a bit overboard with this description, but it pretty much sums the truth up.
I have recently learned about their sectarianism and how many lives it has cost the USA in men, so Im a bit unhappy about the required Fanaticism, that requires us to go in and baby sit barbarian members of this religion saving other sects from savages.
Indeed yes. We all have faith, and I use that word deliberately, that what we think or believe is true. And this is the case whether someone be a Muslim, Jew, Hindu or atheist.
outhouse
Atheistically
Yes but don't you agree education and knowledge holds more credibility then known mythology?
Faith is one thing, and it is factually no substitute for education.
It works to a little extent on the other direction as well. Education doesn't always substitute for mythology. Not on the motivational roles, at least.
Stovepipe_Hat
One who will die.
The question's whether Muslims believe another prophet will come. Ask someone who knows. Or research it. I don't think there are any more prophets.
outhouse
Atheistically
But with education come proper understanding of mythology to place it into context that does not lead to fanaticism and fundamentalism and avoidance of reality.
There is very little benefit and only negative aspects associated with any literal reading.
And all muslims are required to be literalist.
I don't disagree, although I wonder how deep the changes have to be for literalism to be overcome.
outhouse
Atheistically
If its anything like Christianity and their YEC problem, about a 100 years
Well look at the strides there with 40 years with our freedom of religion, education and TV shows showing the facts of Human evolution medicine and biology.
Within 30-40 years it will be whittled down to a very low percentages as old beliefs die with the old people, and education brings up a new crop. In the bible belt we are still stunted severely.
With islam I don't know. Watching themselves murder each other over difference in belief does not do any good at all. Pretty hard to educate people that are currently reverting to the 7th century, so the hard liners may need to be slapped with reality.
How do you attack a closed mind? I think overnight
outhouse
Atheistically
If he copied mythology and claimed it as real, and not a bit of it ever happened. It was not god now was it?
No god or angel talking in his ear telling him truths shows he made it all up. hell the 26 years tells me that.
Their book claims factual pseudo history is real.
There is no such thing as a prophet, it is mistranslated by modern man. back then it only meant and was defined as someone who talked about god.
The term was perverted by Christians plagiarizing Judaism, before islam plagiarized the perversion.
It is safe to say, like god, the three big Abrahamic religions all have different definitions of prophet.
Education is critical. And I uphold the value of science in telling us how the world works. Any time someone wants to disregard science in favor of some religious dogma, I'm on the side of science.
I suspect you're using the word "mythology" is a more expansive sense than I would. But in the narrow sense, a myth tells us something about human nature and thus has its own value.
Circling back to the thread topic, how does one judge whether or not someone is a prophet or whether or not there is another one coming later? Perhaps one way is to think about what constitutes a great person and how one measures greatness. One way might be to consider the person's effect on history. No matter what the actions are of some in any given time or place, to me a marker for a true prophet is that his life and teachings inspires millions or billions of people in a positive direction no matter what the actions of a small minority that call themselves believers.