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Will there ever be just the one religion - as there is only the one God!?

.lava

Veteran Member
Can this be true? Can one day the world find peace with one another and remember the heritage God created for us. When he recreated the world with Noah and the floods and Noah's sons went onto create the diversity of nationalities and save us from the path we were taking? Can we one day walk as one as we were meant to?

I ask this question not to discriminate against any religion, but to pose the question of unity in order to create a more peaceful place to live and to prompt others to think about the creation of the world we live in and the vastness of its beauty and really what God's intentions would have been?


i wish! i am afraid it is never gonna happen.
there are many numbers of religions, the fact does not change though. who needs a key that can't open the door? only one of them is the religion and there are people in every nation who follows that one and only religion of God. there are already, Christians, Jews and Muslims who share the same path but masses do not know that.
 

Poshrocker

New Member
Can this be true? Can one day the world find peace with one another and remember the heritage God created for us. When he recreated the world with Noah and the floods and Noah's sons went onto create the diversity of nationalities and save us from the path we were taking? Can we one day walk as one as we were meant to?

I ask this question not to discriminate against any religion, but to pose the question of unity in order to create a more peaceful place to live and to prompt others to think about the creation of the world we live in and the vastness of its beauty and really what God's intentions would have been?


Unfortunately your idea of peace is not possible in this world. Why?

1. We were already warned by Peter ( second letter 2:1) "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." and warrned by John (first letter 4:1) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

Why would their be false prophets? Peter said in his second letter(2:3) "Those teachers are never satisfied. They want to get something out of you. So they make up stories to take advantage of you. They have been under a sentence of death for a long time. The One who will destroy them has not been sleeping. "

How do you make sure you are not taken advantage of? Paul said to the Cornthians in first letter (4:13) "We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; That is why paul reiterated further in verse 6 if the same letter and chapter " And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another." Paul further stated in 2 Cor 12:18 "I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps?

Paul and Titus were in the same spirit, The real church will follow a single non-contradicting doctrine as stated by John 7:16-18 "Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

The bible is pretty consistent, if you will seek the glory of the lord you will not seek your own. hence the preacher of God's doctrin shall exprience what Jesus said in the gospel of Matthew 10:24 " The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord" and therefore shall experience the following MAtthew 10:22"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Hence, that is why Matthew said in Chapter 5:10-11 "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

There can't be peace, a lot of people will seek there own glory rather than God's and they will persecute those who seek's God's will.
 

Dunemeister

Well-Known Member
There's different Jesuses?

Strictly speaking, no. But as the Apostle Paul said, there are different gospels based on different Christs. There is and was one real Jesus, but heretics "modify" Jesus so that the Jesus one group believes in is not the same as that of others. For instance, the Mormon Jesus had been married and had kids; he went to North America. Traditional Christians affirm Jesus' virginity and don't believe he returned after his resurrection (yet). Donatists used to say that Jesus didn't have a real body. And on it goes. So all these groups have different Jesuses.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
Christ will return. At that moment, all persons everywhere living will bend the knee and acknowledge that he is in fact both our King and our God. That'll do it.

and those who say "thanks, but no thanks, i'd rather just keep living my own life."?
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
If the Jesus Christ of the Mormon faith is the real one, and if he returns in my lifetime, then yes.

The Jesus Christ of the Mormon faith is the Jesus Christ of the New Testament. There is only one Jesus Christ, but we (you and I) have different ideas about Him.

That doesn't make multiple Jesus' like you MSC's like to say, it makes multiple understandings of the one Jesus.

If you think George Washington had three arms and I think he is green, that doesn't make two George Washingtons...:slap:
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
Strictly speaking, no.
Then why do you keep saying it? :areyoucra

But as the Apostle Paul said, there are different gospels based on different Christs.
Christ wasn't Jesus' last name. It is Greek for Messiah... he wasn't talking about multiple Jesus'.

There is and was one real Jesus, but heretics "modify" Jesus so that the Jesus one group believes in is not the same as that of others.
For example the pagans at Nicea... :biglaugh:

For instance, the Mormon Jesus had been married and had kids;
Please provide a scriptural (LDS) reference for this claim. Secondly, I don't recall the bible saying Jesus was NOT married so how would there be a contradiction either way? There may be individual LDS who believe this but I am quite confident it is not official doctrine.

he went to North America.
Is there a portion of the bible that says: ps. Jesus didn't go to America...?

Traditional Christians affirm Jesus' virginity and don't believe he returned after his resurrection (yet). Donatists used to say that Jesus didn't have a real body. And on it goes. So all these groups have different Jesuses.
No, as you yourself have now admitted, they do not "have different Jesuses" (sic). They have different ideas about the one and only Jesus.
 

DeepShadow

White Crow
For instance, the Mormon Jesus had been married and had kids.

(deep breaths)

As you have hereby demonstrated that you know nothing of our beliefs, please refrain from representing us. Matter of fact, I would recommend you avoid representing anyone's beliefs for them, and if you must do so, do it with qualifiers.
 

Dunemeister

Well-Known Member
(deep breaths)

As you have hereby demonstrated that you know nothing of our beliefs, please refrain from representing us. Matter of fact, I would recommend you avoid representing anyone's beliefs for them, and if you must do so, do it with qualifiers.

Apologies. I came by this idea through discussions with Mormons. I don't know of any scriptural source (biblical, LDS, or otherwise) to support the claim. I just assumed that the Mormons I was talking to (they were missionaries) knew what they were talking about.

It should be noted in fairness that the same could be said to Mormons. Several times, Mormons have misrepresented traditional and biblical Christianity (at least, they've done so by my lights). Should I demand that all Mormons not say anything about Christianity? That would be absurd. Similarly, it's absurd for Mormons to demand that I "refrain from representing you." It's very likely that we misunderstand each other at various points, and if so, the best response is simply to correct the other's misapprehension.

No need to get testy....
 

DeepShadow

White Crow
Six of one, half dozen of the other.

This is hardly a matter of semantics. There is a drastic difference between two perceptions of the same being and two different beings. For example, it's been said that if everyone draws closer to Christ, we will naturally draw closer together. That's true if we have different perspectives on the same being, but not if we are actually viewing different people.

Moreover, to claim that each perspective on Christ/God is the same as a separate entity is to claim that only one perspective will every lead to salvation: an incomplete view is not enough. Problem is, no mortal can ever have a complete view of the divine...and so no one can be saved.
 

Dunemeister

Well-Known Member
Is there a portion of the bible that says: ps. Jesus didn't go to America...?

Indirectly, yes. The Book of Hebrews says that after Jesus' ascension, he became our high priest. As high priest, he "sat down at the right hand of the Father." The High Priest sits down only after his work (administering salvation from God) is finished. So this passage implies that after his resurrection, Jesus had no further work to do with respect to salvation. Thus for Jesus to have appeared ANYWHERE after the resurrection and before the final judgment would contradict scripture.
 

DeepShadow

White Crow
It should be noted in fairness that the same could be said to Mormons. Several times, Mormons have misrepresented traditional and biblical Christianity (at least, they've done so by my lights). Should I demand that all Mormons not say anything about Christianity?

You speak as if there is only one form of Christianity, but that's not the case. There are many sects, and you do people a disservice when you lump them together like this. If these Mormons you speak of commit the same offense, they do the same disservice.
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
Six of one, half dozen of the other.

that you fail to see the distinction is enlightening...:rolleyes:


You're quite the curmudgeon, aren't you?

Only with those who insist on leaving reason and logic from their arguments, I get along nicely with those who have both but I have a difficult time tolerating those whose arguments are pretentious, illogical and poorly reasoned.

(of course the above is a generalization and I am not referring to you or your arguments) :flirt:
 
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