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Will Trump cause a war with Iran ?

sooda

Veteran Member
Yup !!! ... your 'age of Aquarius' is just around the corner

When the moon is in the Seventh House .. And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets .. And love will steer the stars
Harmony and understanding .. Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions .. Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation .. And the mind's true liberation
Aquarius .. Aquarius

Are you into astrology???
 

Cleary

God is sovereign and in control <><
Are you into astrology???

not at all .... astronomy < the science of the stars ... astrology < the superstition of the stars

the God of the Holy Bible < the one who placed the stars and gave each one a name
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
not at all .... astronomy < the science of the stars ... astrology < the superstition of the stars

the God of the Holy Bible < the one who placed the stars and gave each one a name

Me either.. Why did you bring it up?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
sure you do ..... nothing = something ... right ?

Nope.. The Schofield Bible was strictly a political ploy.. and its been successful. Dallas Theological Seminary has turned out thousands of birdbrained preachers teaching futurism.
 

Cleary

God is sovereign and in control <><
Don't look at me, it's your (secular) prophecy ... right ? What? I don't do superstition.

Sure you do ..... something = from nothing ... right ? Nope

so you claim something = from something ? ...
or is it nothing = from something ?
or is it nothing = from nothing ?
maybe something = from nothing ? < which is it ??
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Komori

Member
Neither al Qaeda nor ISIS are Wahhabi.. Saudis who fight for either go to prison if the return to KSA.
Al-Qaeda and ISIS are definitely Wahhabi. They're just slightly more faithful to what Muhammad ibn Abdu'l-Wahhab actually believed, which was takfir and jihad upon anyone who didn't agree with him. ISIS talks about this in their magazine Dabiq, issue 13, p. 7:
Rather, the palace scholars of the Saudi regime — from their "Grand Mufti" `Abdul-`Aziz Al ash-Shaykh to the minions who spread deceitful pro-taghut [idolatry] propaganda atop the pulpits of their "kingdom" — are at the forefront of this effort to dissuade Muslims from jihad and from upholding the Shari'ah. Hiding behind claims of being "Sunni," "Hanbali," "Salafi," and especially descendants and students of Muhammad Ibn `Abdil-Wahhab, they are truly nothing more than slaves of taghut [idolatry], waging war against the mujahidin in order to maintain the status quo. It was Ibn `Abdil-Wahhab who mentioned among the ten greatest nullifiers of Islam, "Eighth: Backing the mushrikin [polytheists] and aiding them against the Muslims."
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
Al-Qaeda and ISIS are definitely Wahhabi. They're just slightly more faithful to what Muhammad ibn Abdu'l-Wahhab actually believed, which was takfir and jihad upon anyone who didn't agree with him. ISIS talks about this in their magazine Dabiq, issue 13, p. 7:

No they aren't.. There are lots of idiots running around who call themselves Wahhabi and are not. The Western press doesn't know the difference.
 

Komori

Member
No they aren't.. There are lots of idiots running around who call themselves Wahhabi and are not. The Western press doesn't know the difference.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone running around and calling themselves a Wahhabi is an idiot. Also, I did not cite the Western press. I literally cited ISIS themselves and the writings of Muhammad ibn Abdu'l-Wahhab.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
As far as I'm concerned, anyone running around and calling themselves a Wahhabi is an idiot. Also, I did not cite the Western press. I literally cited ISIS themselves and the writings of Muhammad ibn Abdu'l-Wahhab.

You don't know the writings of Wahhab… and you don't know any Wahhabis. ISIS has carried out over 2 dozen suicide bombings in the kingdom.. They declared war on KSA in 2011.

You read Arabic, do you?
 

Komori

Member
You don't know the writings of Wahhab… and you don't know any Wahhabis. ISIS has carried out over 2 dozen suicide bombings in the kingdom.. They declared war on KSA in 2011.

You read Arabic, do you?
Of course I don't know any of these people. Why would I associate with them? They believe Shias to be kuffar and make up all kinds of lies about them.

Yes, I read Arabic.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Of course I don't know any of these people. Why would I associate with them? They believe Shias to be kuffar and make up all kinds of lies about them.

Yes, I read Arabic.

AQ is Deobandi and influenced by Sayeed Qubt and Al Banna. ISIS used to be Baathists in Saddam's army.
 

Komori

Member
AQ is Deobandi and influenced by Sayeed Qubt and Al Banna.
And al-Qaeda and Sayyid Qutb were both heavily influenced by the Wahhabis and their poster-boy Ibn Taymiyyah.
ISIS used to be Baathists in Saddam's army
What are you trying to say? Are these the typical lies about Saddam creating ISIS? ISIS sprung from al-Qaeda and was originally called "al-Qaeda in Iraq." You seem like you don't have basic knowledge about the history surrounding these events. Saddam never had any connections with al-Qaeda — he despised all forms of Islamism — and neither has ISIS ever had any significant connection with Baathism. They despise it, since Baathism is secular and socialist-influenced.
 

sooda

Veteran Member

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The two attacks on the Saudi oil tankers were made by drones from Yemen.
To be fair,I do believe sanction by US is attack too.
Let's suppose a country sanction US,I think US army will move next day to attack that country.

Here is what I expect will happened if a war begin.
I predict that Iran will target all oil sources and ports in region.
 
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