Wiping out Christianity and all other condemning religions

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Rather than us having to guess, why don't you tell us what it is you actually mean? It would make for a greater level of clarity in this discussion.

None of the things anyone has said here are relevant to anything I have said. People seem to be offended and that is not the type of message I was intending.

 

[Kirran]

None of the things anyone has said here are relevant to anything I have said. People seem to be offended and that is not the type of message I was intending.

Well perhaps you might like to restate what it is you were saying, because I think that what people are thinking you're saying makes sense to me as a plausible reading of the post.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Your greatest sin isn't your hedonistic lifestyle, it's your pathetic rationalization of intolerance of others. Whose religion drives the Atheist North Korean leader to violence and oppression unmatched by any other country today? Whose religion justifies Atheist Mao Zedong murdering tens of millions of his countrymen in China's Communist revolution?

The problem with Christianity is that it's the opposite of what you accuse it of. You and your follow Atheists (Liberals, Jews, etc.) have exploited Christian tolerance to build an America that is the most oppressive it has ever been (outside of slavery).

Then I might as well just take a knife and butcher myself and laugh while blood is gushing out of me. I am a worthless human being anyway. So that would be the ideal thing to happen. I might as well just throw both myself and my humanity away. It would be ideal that I might as well just give up on myself, my humanity, and butcher myself.

 

[DragonHawk1959]

Edit: None of the things anyone has said here are relevant to anything I have said. People seem to be offended and that is not the type of message I was intending.

I mentioned before that I am completely undecided when it comes to any religious view. I am open to scientific materialism and other views of God, the afterlife, and the paranormal. I wish I wasn't though because that means I am open to the possibility of Christianity.

Now I am fine with people having their own worldviews, but when that said worldview imposes upon me and condemns my way of life as sinful, that is when you have gone too far. I am a hedonist and, according to Christianity and many other religions, I would be sent to hell since it is a selfish way of living. I am not living in obedience to any God and that would condemn me to hell.

Worldviews, in my honest opinion, should only stay within the boundaries of the individual. Once these worldviews carry on over to the lives of other people and starts condemning them, that is when it has gone too far. This can drive open minded people like me and even atheists and scientific materialists to violence.

It is not just religious people who start wars and violence, other secular people can also be driven to wars and violence upon these condemning religious people as well. So it would be best, in my honest opinion, if these types of condemning religions were wiped out and never existed. It is disrespect towards kind hedonists such as me and many other people as well.

What's even worse is that Christianity is being supported and upheld by many intellectual people and claimed evidence of Jesus' resurrection is being presented.

First, there are religions which encourage hedonism.
Second, the Abrahamic faiths are evolving. They're also losing their strangle hold on their respective societies. People are deciding for themselves what it means to be Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. The recent election and the situations in the middle east are reactions against these changes.
The people who voted for Trump are afraid.

As to intellectuals supporting Christianity ... I'm stump. Christianity is hide-bound ANTI INTELLECTUAL. The Bible even says:
You are not to rely on your own understanding.

 

[DragonHawk1959]

Then send Yahweh (Baal/Allah) to the Lake of Fire on Judgement Day when humans get the right to condemn all immortal terrorists for committing Crimes Against Humanity.

Jesus and God (beyond the Universe) are completely separate to the little demon aliens that call themselves gods.

Would those little demon aliens include Ashera, God's wife?

 

[DragonHawk1959]

I am a Christian also a creationist so what I believe flies in the face of many scientific beliefs. I my worldview you are free to live as you want as long as you do not interfere with the way I live. Do I believe that you are condemned because of the lifestyle you are living yes but that does not mean I do not believe you have the right to live as you want. You just can't be a Christian and live the lifestyle you say you are. To be a Christian means you live your life a certain way but you don't impose this way on others outside the faith. I don't condemn anyone, they do that themselves. The ultimate judge is God and he will judge everyone in the end so fear him not others.

When did Yahweh go from being a strictly regional sky god to being the omnipotent, omniscient creator of the universe?
When did he divorce Ashera ?

 

[atpollard]

If you do, why do you believe in the christian god? There are other gods that don't send people to hell for silly things like disbelief.

A subtle point, but God (of Christianity) does not send you to hell for disbelief. People are sent to hell for the sins they commit. Disbelief is like being on death row and rejecting the Governor's pardon. You can't really blame the Governor for that.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Biblical Christianity is not violent. People in history may have done violence in the name of Jesus but not based on the message of Jesus.

I think there is a certain amount of 'I don't want to hear it' opposing Jesus because of personal preference... clearly Jesus was killed related to such, but that's a form of denial and not listening to God. Cain didn't want to learn from his experience related to Abel and wouldn't leave 'the dark side' which ate him alive... nothing new...

The gospel is an invitation to come home and the power to come home

 

[Jumi]

Disbelief is like being on death row and rejecting the Governor's pardon. You can't really blame the Governor for that.

You could blame the Governor for not sending you a pardon.

 

[DragonHawk1959]

So in effect, you're saying that no one is allowed to have a worldview unless that wordview includes approval of your lifestyle choices?


So ensure that I not be exposed to any idea or wordview which I dislike, otherwise I just might be driven to violence.

Are you even listening to yourself?

NO, that's not what he's saying.
He wants a society in which those who would condemn people who are doing no harm don't get to write the laws.
And for the last 8 years extremist Christians have been advocating civil war "To bring America back to God."

 

[DragonHawk1959]

Biblical Christianity is not violent. People in history may have done violence in the name of Jesus but not based on the message of Jesus.

I think there is a certain amount of 'I don't want to hear it' opposing Jesus because of personal preference... clearly Jesus was killed related to such, but that's a form of denial and not listening to God. Cain didn't want to learn from his experience related to Abel and wouldn't leave 'the dark side' which ate him alive... nothing new...

The gospel is an invitation to come home and the power to come home

It isn't?
None who do not hate their father and mother can follow me.
I come not to bring peace but the sword.
If you have not a sword, then sell your cloak and buy one.
You are to slay even your brother if he believes differently than you do.

 

[DragonHawk1959]

I don't think you have as much freedom to choose a religion as that. You either believe in the god or you don't.

Then what of those who convert, after decades or even a lifetime?

 

[Rapha]

Would those little demon aliens include Ashera, God's wife?

Yes. It is Yahweh's wife who wants to be classed as a goddess. Just another little predictable terrorist daemon. Just like all the other little fallen angels.

 

[DragonHawk1959]

Being offended is one of the worst arguments for banning religions(or anything else). There seems to be no end to things which offends you either. Some time ago you were offended by atheists because you wanted to believe in a pleasurable afterlife and now you're offended by religions because you don't want to believe in a hell of torture. What will you be offended by next?

Being offended is why most things which are banned are verboten.

 

[Prestor John]

There are so many things you said that just cannot slide.

People seem to be offended and that is not the type of message I was intending.

That’s weird. I wonder why anyone would get offended.

I wish I wasn't though because that means I am open to the possibility of Christianity.

There we go. Wishing you were not open-minded because it “exposes” you to the possibility of Christianity.

You still don’t understand why people might get offended?

Now I am fine with people having their own worldviews…

You don’t seem to be. You just said that you wished that you were not be open to the possibility of “Christianity” becoming your “worldview”.

…but when that said worldview imposes upon me and condemns my way of life as sinful, that is when you have gone too far.

You think everyone should just agree with you? No worldviews that oppose your way of life?

I am a hedonist and, according to Christianity and many other religions, I would be sent to hell since it is a selfish way of living.

And you now wish those religions would be “wiped out”?

So, your response to someone having the belief that your lifestyle is sinful is to destroy/replace their worldview?

For someone complaining about having a worldview “imposed” on them, you seem to have no issue with “imposing” your worldview onto others.

You know, I’m still waiting for you to share how someone “imposed” their worldview onto you.

Worldviews, in my honest opinion, should only stay within the boundaries of the individual. Once these worldviews carry on over to the lives of other people and starts condemning them, that is when it has gone too far.

And this warrants destroying/replacing their worldview with your worldview?

You don’t see how your desire to force people to believe as you do is worse than what you are complaining about?

This can drive open minded people like me and even atheists and scientific materialists to violence.

Yes, of course. You don’t have any self-control, so it would be the “Christians” fault if you were to punch them in the face for disagreeing with you or condemning your selfish lifestyle. (note sarcasm)

You see, I knew you were going to mention violence eventually because you do not care or respect the worldview of others.

You don’t want anyone disagreeing with you or telling you that anything you do is wrong, so you are going to force people to agree with you and “shut up” through violence.

You are a fascist.

It is not just religious people who start wars and violence, other secular people can also be driven to wars and violence upon these condemning religious people as well.

You believe that you can blame others for YOU starting a war?

Do you not believe that you should be accountable for what you say and do?

So it would be best, in my honest opinion, if these types of condemning religions were wiped out and never existed.

I think it would be best for people like you, who believe that others should be forced by violence to agree with you and that you are not accountable for your own actions should be wiped out and never existed.

It is disrespect towards kind hedonists such as me and many other people as well.

Oh no! Your feelings were hurt? That’s an excuse to start World War 3?

How can you describe yourself as “kind” after expressing your opinion that anyone that agrees with you should be wiped out?

What's even worse is that Christianity is being supported and upheld by many intellectual people and claimed evidence of Jesus' resurrection is being presented.

I don’t know about any evidence of the Resurrection of Christ, but intellectual people support Christianity because they support the ideals of freedom.

So, to boil it all down.

You provided no evidence of any worldview being "imposed" on you.

Your response to someone disagreeing with you is to force your worldview upon them by means of violence.

You also do not claim any personal responsibility for your violence against someone who disagreed with you.

Everyone else is wrong. It is everyone else's fault if you hurt them. You are right and because of that you feel justified in forcing people to believe as you do through violence.

Wow

 

[Blastcat]

It is not just religious people who start wars and violence, other secular people can also be driven to wars and violence upon these condemning religious people as well. So it would be best, in my honest opinion, if these types of condemning religions were wiped out and never existed.

Hmmm you advocate against violence and then you advocate for it. I think it's time for some thinking.

For or against violence, my friend?

 

[Carmel]

Edit: None of the things anyone has said here are relevant to anything I have said. People seem to be offended and that is not the type of message I was intending.

What, exactly, is the type of message you're intending? Because to me the OP reads -- somewhat ironically -- as a blanket condemnation of those who believe that your lifestyle is wrong. And because people disagree with you, and believe that your lifestyle is wrong, they and their religions ought to be wiped out.

So, lets kiss goodbye to the Baha'i Faith, Orthodox Judaism, several major types of Christianity, mainstream Islam, etc. etc. because they hurt your feelings.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Your greatest sin isn't your hedonistic lifestyle, it's your pathetic rationalization of intolerance of others. Whose religion drives the Atheist North Korean leader to violence and oppression unmatched by any other country today? Whose religion justifies Atheist Mao Zedong murdering tens of millions of his countrymen in China's Communist revolution?

The problem with Christianity is that it's the opposite of what you accuse it of. You and your follow Atheists (Liberals, Jews, etc.) have exploited Christian tolerance to build an America that is the most oppressive it has ever been (outside of slavery).

Wow. That might be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Congratulations.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

This can drive open minded people like me and even atheists and scientific materialists to violence.

If it does, they deserve condemnation.

 

[Jumi]

Being offended is why most things which are banned are verboten.

I'm not sure if it's most, but I'd say many. Being libertarian I naturally disagree with banning things even if they offend me.