With the pandemic things are starting to get real out there

[Valjean]

Valjean said: ↑

What do you think are the make-believe values created by professional liars and con-men on Wall Street, Madison Ave., and in Washington DC?
That greed is good. That decadence warrants respect. That exploitation is the divine right of 'kings'. That competition is self-justified. There's more, but God knows, these are bad enough!

I didn't say that -- I blame it on the cat!

 

[Valjean]

This thread has gone so far off topic. No one has watch the video. It's really sad. Mods, you might as well lock this thread down.

Links to a facebook page, and the video won't play.
Summary?

 

[dfnj]

Links to a facebook page, and the video won't play.
Summary?

There was this guy, bridge, and donut. It was ugly.

 

[PureX]

I don't see why not, I mean crop yield or general ag yield has probably gone up like a thousand percent since a hundred years ago

The reasons for that would all be lost in the chaos of a socio-economic collapse.

 

[PureX]

How do you envision living without money?
I see no problem with money as long as people do not worship money. I am sure you know what Jesus said about that. Moreover, money can be used to help others, it is not always used for selfish purposes and materialism.

The real problem facing humanity is not money, it's near total inter-dependence, and our willful ignorance regarding it. We need to face the reality of this, and accept that our modern societies can no longer tolerate the kind of selfishness masquerading as freedom that our current culture worships and promotes. We must accept that we the order of the times is cooperation for mutual benefit, not competition for self-interest.

So competition is bad? Do you believe in socialism?

In most instances, among humans, competition is a huge waste of time and energy that could be far more positively effecting if spent on mutual cooperation.

Do you think all rich people are greedy and decadent?

Only if they don't share the wealth and opportunities that they've managed to acquire.

Do you think that everyone who makes money in the stock market is exploiting others?

Investment capital is a very good idea and force in the economy. But capitalism: giving commercial control to the capital investor, exclusively, is a disastrous idea in a modern inter-dependent society. It's literally a recipe for the subjugation and exploitation of the many, by the few, through the control of wealth. It's fundamentally parasitic and can ultimately only lead to socio-economic collapse.

What about middle-class people who made investments for their retirement? Are you happy to see them suffering from a market crash?

They are riding the coattails of their "massahs" hoping to gain an advantage for themselves. I don't blame them, nor forgive them. They made their bed and they will sleep in it, as we all do.

 

[Trailblazer]

The real problem facing humanity is not money, it's near total inter-dependence, and our willful ignorance regarding it. We need to face the reality of this, and accept that our modern societies can no longer tolerate the kind of selfishness masquerading as freedom that our current culture worships and promotes. We must accept that we the order of the times is cooperation for mutual benefit, not competition for self-interest.

In most instances, among humans, competition is a huge waste of time and energy that could be far more positively effecting if spent on mutual cooperation.

Cooperation for mutual benefit is one of the most important Baha'i principles.

As the following article says: Baha’u’llah urged humanity toward its collective well-being and explained things in simple terms that we could witness in the physical world. To appreciate our natural, essential unity amidst our diversity, His writings describe humanity as:

• Fruits of one tree
• Waves of one sea
• Flowers of one garden
• As the fingers of one hand, the members of one body

Reflections on the Coronavirus and the Oneness of Humanity

I am stressed and stretched really thin right now, so that is all I have time to say.
I always appreciate your well-thought out posts.

 

[dfnj]

Links to a facebook page, and the video won't play.
Summary?

The video starts off where a guy is taking a POV video in the front yard of his house. He's standing on the driveway. A road goes off to the left. And there's a covered wooden bridge in the distance on another road.

The guy starts off say, "Yeah, things are really getting bad out there, bla, bla, bla" He then says, "I was standing here and woman came up from behind and said, 'excuse me', which kind of took me by surprised". He then says the woman then asks him, "I will give you a blow J and some donuts if you give me some toilet paper." The guy in the video never laughs and is completely serious. The next thing the guy says, "Yeah, she went over to Darrel's house" and he lifts his arm in the video pointing towards Darrel's house. In the video, he's holding a half eaten donut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!