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Woman uses suicide capsule, 4 arrested.
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Secret Chief
Vetted Member
"used on" sounds like it wasn't voluntary....
an anarchist
Your local loco.
Aye, I changed the wording.
The Guardian notes:
That strikes me as inane. Imagine a law in the U.S. which affirms that a women has the right to abort a fetus so long as she does so with no “external assistance” and those who help her do not do so for “any self-serving motive.”
Swiss law allows assisted suicide as long as the person takes his or her life with no “external assistance” and those who help the person die do not do so for “any self-serving motive”, according to a government website. [source]
That strikes me as inane. Imagine a law in the U.S. which affirms that a women has the right to abort a fetus so long as she does so with no “external assistance” and those who help her do not do so for “any self-serving motive.”
an anarchist
Your local loco.
Sounds like a couple oxymorons. Would you agree?
The Swiss suicide pod is just a copy of
the more feature rich Stop & Drop that
debuted in 2008 In NYC, USA.
the more feature rich Stop & Drop that
debuted in 2008 In NYC, USA.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
Oh my, I remember this scene vividly. Me and my neighbor watched this when we were in grade school, we nearly died laughing.
Be careful with the selection options.
The right to assisted suicide providing there is no assistance is certainly a head-scratcher.
It's one of those rare situations where calling it a "Catch 22" is accurate.
Just have to avoid working with humans. Most humans in modern Western culture don't recognize non-humans as persons or as having any legal standing whatsoever, so if you get help from non-human organisms and do not involve a human you're fine. There are many non-humans to choose from who are knowledgable in such things. Humans deliberately put some of those very plant helpers in their cities and around homes in curiously large quantities in fact. It's weirdly funny - I doubt the humans do it on purpose, they do it out of botanical ignorance (of which there is plenty).
Nothing irritates me quite so much at botanical ignorance.
PureX
Veteran Member
I think the idea is that we could "assist" the patient with information, materials, and setting up a procedure, but we could not set the process in motion. Not even at the behest of the patient. They have to be able to do that for themselves. And if we stand to benefit in any way from the patient's death, we cannot "assist" it in any way.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
"Elisabeth Baume-Schneider, the Swiss minister responsible for health, said on Monday that the capsule does not meet the requirements of product safety law, and that its use of nitrogen is not legally compliant."
Well duh! Of course it is dangerous. That stuff can kill you! Death from nitrogen asphyxiation appears to be very painless:
en.wikipedia.org
People in a pure nitrogen atmosphere can easily pass out without knowing that anything is wrong. It is why any institute that works with liquid nitrogen has protocols that people must follow. For example, no liquid nitrogen on an elevator. It is the rare case where a failure of an elevator would be deadly. There are all sorts of possible enclosed situations that one has to be wary of:
Seriously it appears to be the ideal way to go. Relatively quick and painless. And the gas is perfectly safe when mixed with air since air is already 80% nitrogen.
Was the government just jealous because a quick and painless way for people to kill themselves was developed?
Well duh! Of course it is dangerous. That stuff can kill you! Death from nitrogen asphyxiation appears to be very painless:
Inert gas asphyxiation - Wikipedia
People in a pure nitrogen atmosphere can easily pass out without knowing that anything is wrong. It is why any institute that works with liquid nitrogen has protocols that people must follow. For example, no liquid nitrogen on an elevator. It is the rare case where a failure of an elevator would be deadly. There are all sorts of possible enclosed situations that one has to be wary of:
Seriously it appears to be the ideal way to go. Relatively quick and painless. And the gas is perfectly safe when mixed with air since air is already 80% nitrogen.
Was the government just jealous because a quick and painless way for people to kill themselves was developed?
According to a thought bubble I imagined over Vance's head.....
"If God wanted people to die painlessly, He wouldn't
have given the US government bombs & bullets."
It's a fact.
Concerning, if these "assistants" are prosecuted and found guilty will there be a knock on to Dignitas.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Every person has a right to determine what happens to their own life, without interference by the state. Clearly this woman felt her suffering made death more appealing than life. Only she can know that.