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Woman Will be Pardoned if Her Abused Son is Resurrected from the Dead

JustWondering2

Just the facts Ma'am
More like the completely demented leading the blind.

I think the sentence is too lenient, she should be prosecuted for murder, being as dumb as a rock isn't an excuse for killing a baby.

I agree 100%! It reminds me of the parents that prayed for their child instead of taking them to the doctor and the child died, of what I would call neglect! I think people that do such things as this should be treated as murder's!
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
How in the blazes is that woman a victim??? How does she get off so easy while the others get second degree murder? Was she extremely mentally handicapped or something??? She denied her own baby food and starved him to death. I don't care what whack job told her to do it...SHE did it! Starve her butt in prison as far as I'm concerned!
 

Baydwin

Well-Known Member
How in the blazes is that woman a victim??? How does she get off so easy while the others get second degree murder? Was she extremely mentally handicapped or something??? She denied her own baby food and starved him to death. I don't care what whack job told her to do it...SHE did it! Starve her butt in prison as far as I'm concerned!
Exactly. If anything she should be charged with 1st degree murder. The others might have told her to do it, being the insane wingnuts that they are, but she willingly and purposefully deprived her child of food.
Even if she was found to be mentally incompetant, she should still be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned or maybe even sectioned, at least for the fact that a person like that shouldn't be out in the community.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Md. woman who starved son gets suspended sentence, probation - WorldWide Religious News

In a nutshell, her spiritual advisor told her to refrain from feeding her son whenever he refused to start his meal by stating "amen". He died. She has pleaded guilty to child abuse resulting in death, but her sentence will be lifted if, as her spiritual advisor states, her prayers bring her son back to life.

From Baltimore Sun article:
"Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory suspended the balance of Ramkissoon's 20-year sentence and ordered her to report to a residential treatment facility for young women. The treatment program includes Bible study, and Ramkissoon will be required to complete the program, which doesn't have a specified length, before she can live on her own."

Perhaps I misunderstand, so let me see if I have this right. A religious cult convinces this mother that starving her baby is a good idea. She starves & kills the kid. The court says the mother is the real victim. The judge sentences her to probation & Bible study. I guess he thought she just didn't have enuf religion or the right religion in her life to know that killing her child was wrong. Is that about it? If I smoked, I'd ask for some of what that judge was huffing.
 

DoctorAnswerMan

Resident Answer Man
From Baltimore Sun article:
"Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory suspended the balance of Ramkissoon's 20-year sentence and ordered her to report to a residential treatment facility for young women. The treatment program includes Bible study, and Ramkissoon will be required to complete the program, which doesn't have a specified length, before she can live on her own."

Perhaps I misunderstand, so let me see if I have this right. A religious cult convinces this mother that starving her baby is a good idea. She starves & kills the kid. The court says the mother is the real victim. The judge sentences her to probation & Bible study. I guess he thought she just didn't have enuf religion or the right religion in her life to know that killing her child was wrong. Is that about it? If I smoked, I'd ask for some of what that judge was huffing.

Well, isn't that just about revolting?

I remember this case from when it first broke. There are just a few things that should be understood before leaping to judgment and such.

1). Ria Ramkissoon pleaded guilty. She did not argue. She expressed genuine remorse and pain. This is important in the legal arena.
2). She was not able to operate as an adult in full control of her faculties and/or situation at the time of the events that lead to the death of her child.
3). She was in a 'prisoner' situation/relationship with the dominate Cult of Personality figure.
4). Her actions were monitored by her 'abductors' so as to prevent her from intervening on behalf of her child.

For what that is worth, there it is- my opinion and interpretation. I am not a judge. Now as to the rehabilitation program requiring a 'bible study' program. I read that in one blog, but have not been able to substantiate that claim. I do not see that such a sentence requirement is possible in the US. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the courts are not even allowed to display the 'Ten Commandments' let alone order a 'Bible Study.' Is that not so?
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Unless she was under supervision 24/7 by members of the cult, I don't see how she couldn't have given her starving baby food. Yes, all those are mitigating circumstances, but it hardly should absolve the mother from all wrong-doing and responsibility for her actions. Anyone who can watch their 1 year old starve to death has a dangerous detachment from human empathy, imo.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, isn't that just about revolting?

I remember this case from when it first broke. There are just a few things that should be understood before leaping to judgment and such.

1). Ria Ramkissoon pleaded guilty. She did not argue. She expressed genuine remorse and pain. This is important in the legal arena.
2). She was not able to operate as an adult in full control of her faculties and/or situation at the time of the events that lead to the death of her child.
3). She was in a 'prisoner' situation/relationship with the dominate Cult of Personality figure.
4). Her actions were monitored by her 'abductors' so as to prevent her from intervening on behalf of her child.

For what that is worth, there it is- my opinion and interpretation. I am not a judge. Now as to the rehabilitation program requiring a 'bible study' program. I read that in one blog, but have not been able to substantiate that claim. I do not see that such a sentence requirement is possible in the US. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the courts are not even allowed to display the 'Ten Commandments' let alone order a 'Bible Study.' Is that not so?

The mitigating factors you cite would make the sentence look more reasonable. I suspect that the blog you found has some truth in it. Sometimes the courts do impose a quasi-religious sentence, eg, a 12 step program (with a "higher power") for DUI offenders. You caught me being a wag with the "Bible study" barb - the article merely said that it was part of her program. (A sharp one you are!)

I don't feel at home here yet....how about you, Doc?
 

DoctorAnswerMan

Resident Answer Man
The mitigating factors you cite would make the sentence look more reasonable. I suspect that the blog you found has some truth in it. Sometimes the courts do impose a quasi-religious sentence, eg, a 12 step program (with a "higher power") for DUI offenders. You caught me being a wag with the "Bible study" barb - the article merely said that it was part of her program. (A sharp one you are!)

I don't feel at home here yet....how about you, Doc?

No, Rev, it is not quite like home. I am not allowed to post links yet and that is very limiting, much more than I had thought. You know I prefer brief responses with references to more lengthy info. perhaps soon I will cross that 15 post minimum. It is slow going. Let me try now....no, it didn't work yet.
 
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