Wondering about "anti-maskers".

[Father Heathen]

By logic, those who oppose mask mandates because they consider them tyrannical and anti-freedom would also oppose anti-nudity laws that mandate clothing for the same reason. However, being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

 

[Politesse]

If anything, tolerance of public nudity has been regressing over the past few decades, here in the US from whence I am writing. You are not the first to reflect on the irony of the current situation, but alas conservatives are completely immune to recognizing such contradictions in their expressed attitudes, and will see pointing something like this out as nothing but a ploy to distract from the real issue.

 

[icehorse]

By logic, those who oppose mask mandates because they consider them tyrannical and anti-freedom would also oppose anti-nudity laws that mandate clothing for the same reason. However, being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

I wonder if they are also anti-seatbelters and anti-helmet wearers?

 

[ChristineM]

Just tell them they are to confuse facial recognition cameras, i bet they wouldn't object then

 

[February-Saturday]

I'm anit-nudity, anit-seatbelt, anti-helmet, and anti-mask laws, so I guess I'm at least consistent. I do think everyone should be wearing a mask, but I think the laws are not only not working (since most people are still taking their masks off or wearing ineffective "masks"), but are contributing to some class problems where I'm at.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I'm anit-nudity, anit-seatbelt, anti-helmet, and anti-mask laws, so I guess I'm at least consistent. I do think everyone should be wearing a mask, but I think the laws are not only not working (since most people are still taking their masks off or wearing ineffective "masks"), but are contributing to some class problems where I'm at.

I agree 100 percent.

 

[columbus]

I'm anit-nudity, anit-seatbelt, anti-helmet, and anti-mask laws, so I guess I'm at least consistent.

I don't see this as particularly consistent.

The sight of some boobs or dicks cannot do you any harm, in and of themselves. Nudity hasn't any inherent danger.

Exposing people to your orifices does. So does vehicular travel without safety gear.

If the human form causes you problems, that's on you. Dangerous behavior is quite different.
Tom

 

[Tambourine]

You can't apply logic to positions that are fundamentally borne of emotions and prejudice.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As I suggested in another thread, I think that anti-maskers ought to be demanding that the teams overseeing their child's (or their own) surgery also avoid wearing masks. Surely, someone who isn't a total hypocrite wouldn't want the person saving their life, or their child's, harming themselves in the process! That would be excessively ungrateful.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

By logic, those who oppose mask mandates because they consider them tyrannical and anti-freedom would also oppose anti-nudity laws that mandate clothing for the same reason. However, being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

Nothing wrong with anti-nudity laws. Can you imagine going to an interview and it not being against the law to sit with your interviewer butt naked?

Nothing wrong with not wearing mask. Like an interview, it depends on the situation. We don't need masks when we eat. We don't need it when we're not near anyone. We don't need clothes when taking a shower. We have a choice to wear clothes at a nude beach.

It's situational. Most anti mask believers from what I looked up is all political: taking away freedom, response to being controlled, making it a law (in DC I was told they are ticketing people $50 if they don't wear masks)

It's a sad situation but it doesn't help to blame each other.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I wonder if they are also anti-seatbelters and anti-helmet wearers?

Well. Some of us don't wear helmets when we ride bikes but we don't say they're not useful. Thousands of people don't wear seatbelts but I doubt the majority will say they are against it.

Maybe it's mixing up what a person's personal opinion and behavior with their opinions about other people and society as a whole. They aren't always align. Sends mixed messages hereby why people concerned about why people don't wear masks.

 

[Nakosis]

Nothing wrong with anti-nudity laws. Can you imagine going to an interview and it not being against the law to sit with your interviewer butt naked?

Nothing wrong with not wearing mask. Like an interview, it depends on the situation. We don't need masks when we eat. We don't need it when we're not near anyone. We don't need clothes when taking a shower. We have a choice to wear clothes at a nude beach.

It's situational. Most anti mask believers from what I looked up is all political: taking away freedom, response to being controlled, making it a law (in DC I was told they are ticketing people $50 if they don't wear masks)

It's a sad situation but it doesn't help to blame each other.

I don't understand the anger about it. I feel fine, but if I find later I test positive, that means I've endangered everyone I have come into contact with. It's really not that much of a problem to wear a mask around other folks. I'm not really worried for myself but I don't want to be the cause of others getting sick.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I don't understand the anger about it. I feel fine, but if I find later I test positive, that means I've endangered everyone I have come into contact with. It's really not that much of a problem to wear a mask around other folks. I'm not really worried for myself but I don't want to be the cause of others getting sick.

Hm. For me, I have more issues with the asymptomatic thing than the masks. It's nearly impossible that I know I can wake up 24 hours later and all of the sudden be asymptomatic. So, I don't fret about getting tested unless there's something I'm not familiar with. Most of the time I wear masks for other people's psychological benefit (given I don't have symptoms). People overlook how psychology is a big factor of being more acceptable to illnesses and weakens the immune system.

What I don't like is using masks as a whether to say people don't care about others. Aside from the symbolism issues, it's just a mask. Wear it when needed. Don't where you don't. If you like cowboys mask and another wants diamonds on hers, while I see that's silly, it does have a "I have a choice" factor (so learned on one of the news stations about psych benefits of masks). Luckily, I'm not in an environment where people riot over it. At least so far I haven't heard.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nothing wrong with anti-nudity laws. Can you imagine going to an interview and it not being against the law to sit with your interviewer butt naked?

Nothing wrong with not wearing mask. Like an interview, it depends on the situation. We don't need masks when we eat. We don't need it when we're not near anyone. We don't need clothes when taking a shower. We have a choice to wear clothes at a nude beach.

It's situational. Most anti mask believers from what I looked up is all political: taking away freedom, response to being controlled, making it a law (in DC I was told they are ticketing people $50 if they don't wear masks)

It's a sad situation but it doesn't help to blame each other.

You've made arbitrary and contradictory assertions while skirting the point entirely.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

You've made arbitrary and contradictory assertions while skirting the point entirely.

You got to add explanation. Without the support, I don't know what to get from this.

 

[Brickjectivity]

By logic, those who oppose mask mandates because they consider them tyrannical and anti-freedom would also oppose anti-nudity laws that mandate clothing for the same reason. However, being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

Not necessarily. It depends upon whether they believe that the mandatory masks are part of a conspiracy by the Democrats, and some people do believe it. In VA I know for a fact that the governor there has cracked down on guns at the same time as requiring masks and curfews and closing churches. The rejection of the masks has less to do with the masks themselves as the party in power. They simply don't trust Democrats.

 

[GameChanger]

…being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

Wow broad brush and a straw man if I've ever seen one.

 

[Revoltingest]

By logic, those who oppose mask mandates because they consider them tyrannical and anti-freedom would also oppose anti-nudity laws that mandate clothing for the same reason. However, being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

I prefer the anti-drunk driving laws cuz of the danger posed to others.

 

[Deeje]

I heard a very interesting story the other day about a lady in a supermarket carpark getting accused of wearing her mask for political identity. The woman stopped packing her car and turned to her accuser and said...."no actually I have Covid 19 and I wear this mask for your benefit....would you like me to take it off?" The woman was taken aback as the shopper began to remove her mask and move towards her.....as she backed away the woman followed her continuing to talk about public freedom and rights....they ended up running all over the carpark as the woman continued to support her right to wear a mask for the safety of others...?

I can only imagine the scene.....

That is the best response I have heard so far....

Freedom to what? Infect others? This virus is real.
OK...what if it was your Mom or grandma that they infected?
Those who think that they can buck the system are dreaming.....

Their guns are bigger than your guns....

Your freedom is an illusion......wear the damned mask...

 

[Cooky]

By logic, those who oppose mask mandates because they consider them tyrannical and anti-freedom would also oppose anti-nudity laws that mandate clothing for the same reason. However, being conservative this same group would likely consider public nudity offensive, as if bare breast posed greater threat to society than a potentially fatal disease.
Thoughts?

If I was being forced to go naked, I probably wouldn't like that very much. But wearing a mask, during the pandemic, is just being courteous.