Norman
Defender of Truth
Norman: Hi Spockrates, you do not need to sign in at www.lds.org or at www.mormon.org or at any other of our websites.
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Wondering About the Book of Mormon
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Norman: Hi Spockrates, you do not need to sign in at www.lds.org or at www.mormon.org or at any other of our websites.
Norman
Defender of Truth
Norman: Hi Spockrates, www.lds.net is not an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints. However, I visited the site and you have to set up an account.
Norman
Defender of Truth
Norman: Hi Spockrates, If Epiphany and Deja Vu is words that you are familiar with I don't see any harm in using those terms. However, they are not used in LDS terminology to describe
the Holy Ghost.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
It looks to me like you're trying to use lds.net. The site I recommended was Mormon.com. There's nothing wrong with lds.net, but I'm not sure why you thought I was recommending it.
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Spockrates
Wonderer.
Yeah, I posted a question, here:
Profound Words On Faith - Social Hall - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board
Thanks for the help. Is this a good site to use?
Spockrates
Wonderer.
Hi Norman. Would you say they are words that might describe the Holy Ghost's effect on a person? Or are you saying the effect is the Holy Ghost?
Spockrates
Wonderer.
Actually, I tried to set up an account, but I could not. Got an error that it would not accept my email address.
Spockrates
Wonderer.
Thanks, but neither of those sites has a forum. I did find a forum, here:
Profound Words On Faith - Social Hall - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board
If you know of any others, please post a link. Thanks.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Yes, I'd say it appears to be a very good site. I'm a bit embarrassed that they got to your question about dormant faith before I did, though.
Maybe I'll even join the site myself. I've never seen it before, but based on the answers you got, it appears to be very worthwhile.
Norman
Defender of Truth
Thanks, but neither of those sites has a forum. I did find a forum, here:
Profound Words On Faith - Social Hall - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board
If you know of any others, please post a link. Thanks.
Norman: Hi Spockrates, I am so sorry, I did not know that you were looking for an LDS forum. I will try and look around on the internet and see if I can
find any for you.
Norman
Defender of Truth
Norman: Hi Spockrates, I have an email yahoo account, I am going to try and set up an account and see what happens.
Norman
Defender of Truth
Norman: Hi Spockrates, In my opinion they could. I have never thought of the two words until you mentioned them.
Spockrates
Wonderer.
I would love to have you join me there!Yes, I'd say it appears to be a very good site. I'm a bit embarrassed that they got to your question about dormant faith before I did, though.
Maybe I'll even join the site myself. I've never seen it before, but based on the answers you got, it appears to be very worthwhile.
Spockrates
Wonderer.
Norman: I'm just using the words to make a comparison. I know what an epiphany and déjà vu feel like. So I wonder if the "burning in the breast" described in the Book of Mormon is similar or dissimilar to one of those feelings. Please tell me if the feeling that convinced you is like or unlike an epiphany or déjà vu.
Orontes
Master of the Horse
Hello,
If I may answer: epiphany would be the wrong word as it only applies to an intellectual realization, that ah ha! moment a subject feels about some idea or concept. Deja vu would be wrong as the notion refers to a sense of connection to something previously experienced, or thought experienced. Revelation from the Holy Ghost is more than an intellectual realization and may be totally new, without reference to a prior experience. The most common analogy one hears in Church circles is tasting salt. This is apt, because it notes its uniqueness. Salt is different from other tastes (bitter, sweet ,sour etc.) and is only really known through the experience itself. When looking to understand the spirit without having experienced it one of the most common scripture used is Galatians 5:22 into 23:
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance...'
These are things that may attend feeling the spirit, but are not the spirit itself. Another way people sometimes think about experiencing the Holy Ghost is along mystical lines. The key difference between mystical experience and the Holy Ghost is mysticism usually involves a loss of self: a merger of subject and object. When feeling the Holy Ghost, even with very intense experiences, I have never felt a loss of who I was. Quite the opposite, it is a feeling of connection, without any sense of loss, a heightening of sentiment, a refinement, greater acuity, a centered calm even should emotions themselves be intense. It is something that comes to the person, and the medium through which one connects to the Divine. In a single sentence: it is an intuitive experience that reveals the true and connects one to a larger reality. Does that help?
rrosskopf
LDS High Priest
In my case, I knew immediately upon praying that the Book of Mormon was true. It wasn't an emotional response; I was very neutral in my feeling, and just wanted to know the truth where-ever it would lead. However, I was amazed that I suddenly knew. I don't know how I knew. It is as if I always knew, without knowing that I knew. Anyway, after the realization that the Book of Mormon was true, then the emotions came. Suddenly I wanted to learn everything I could about Mormonism. Forty years later I am still learning.
DeepShadow
White Crow
I'd characterize it as something in between. More specific that mere feelings, but lacking the sensory element of hearing spoken words. So, more than a feeling, but less than a voice.