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Wood Co WV state of emergency (again?)

Kapalika

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Photo courtesy of the Marietta Times (Marietta Ohio)

The fire is the old Ames plant on the south side of Parkersburg, West Virginia (United States). It's been on fire for 3 days. We are in a state of emergency and all schools in the county are closed and people are advised to use masks or stay inside.

I didn't know until today; my home is a ways from town and I don't really watch the news. But today I was at the bus station in downtown Parkersburg waiting for the evening route to begin. I saw some notice about it on the door to the station waiting area and not too later I was approached by a city worker in a mask advising me I don't want to be outside as much as possible. I decided it was better to leave downtown as that was the area affected, and set off not waiting over an hour for the bus.

I didn't have more than change for the bus and the pharmacies were out of masks and I wasn't near anyone giving them out. I had a couple of bandanas though and tied them around my mouth when I started to smell smoke about a mile north of downtown which is when I got the idea to take the bandana out of my hair and use the other in my pocket.

When crossing from Parkersburg to Vienna I saw a huge amount of low smoke across the Ohio river above Belpre, Ohio very close to the ground, and even more blown northward. The rain today has made it worse by keeping the smoke low which has caused this, along with changing winds.

Despite my bandanas, by the time I was in northern Vienna it got so that through the two layers I could again smell something like burnt rubber and plastic.


The Ames plant, which has been closed for a while, was used by DuPont years ago for storage and now stuff like formaldehyde and Teflon has been burning for 3 days.

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/...cle_962f0d04-ac14-521b-8a1a-0903fef7477f.html

Gov. Justice declares State of Emergency in West Virginia tool plant fire

MOST RECENT ARTICLE;

UPDATE: Gov. Justice declares State of Emergency for Wood County after warehouse fire

I'd post a bunch of photos but they are everywhere, from people's houses, from parking lots. Some from the other days are really bad. The articles have photos and I found a bunch on Facebook but I'm not sure if my friends want me to share their photos or not.

I managed to get a bunch of pictures of the smoke I saw drifting roughly northwards but I need to fiddle with my phone to get them on imgur since I don't have a cord with me. They may or may not be posted later depending on how good they came out.

Also of note, years ago DuPont left the area after the C8 scandal:

https://www.salon.com/2016/01/04/teflons_toxic_legacy_partner/

The Lawyer Who Became DuPont’s Worst Nightmare

DuPont settles lawsuits over leak of chemical used to make Teflon

It seems DuPont even though gone has somehow caused even more problems. And to think there are corrupt politicians in West Virginia who want Trump to get rid of the EPA!!

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Edit: I forgot to mention, about C8, when the water was deemed unsafe, like last year? We had a don't drink advisory and the city handed out water until eventually we installed some kind of fancy filters for the affected areas (oddly Parkersburg's wells were deep enough to be safe, it was everywhere else that was affected).
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But hey it's not like we have enviormental disasters all the time!... wait...

Thousands Without Water After Spill in West Virginia

Elk River Chemical Spill | West Virginia Public Broadcasting

$151 Million Settlement Deal Reached Over West Virginia Water Poisoning

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Edit: The deemed the water "safe" in Charleston despite it coming out yellow and chemical filled for many people's homes... I think that was a state of emergency too. At the time a politician said the disaster was caused by too many regulations when in fact there was virtually no regulation which is how the spill happened.
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Gee, it's almost as if we need things like OSHA and the EPA and their dismantling has been hurting us. I'm tired of being poisoned!

There is serious grievances the people living here have but our politicians keep threatening we will have no jobs while making little effort to actually do anything. We are so deep in monopolies and corruption with ISPs to chemical production companies. It's like the company towns never left, just took another form. And don't get me started on the mountaintop removal in southern West Virginia...

Senator Mansion has to ****ing go. He's a member of the Democratic party but stands against everything Democrat. Against Net Neutrality, pro coal At least someone like Paula Jean are looking for ways to actually make new jobs that won't poison us. People in West Virginia get so fussy about coal, cause' like I said it's like the coal towns never left. But coal only accounts for like 2% of our state income and employs a VERY SMALL amount of people.

For anyone who doesn't know, the company towns (coal companies) owned your house, your furniture, and payed you in credits you could only use at the company store. It was basically legal fedualism and they would put kids in the mines too until people got lung cancer. Literal wars with gun fights were fought over all this crap between coal miners and company security at times but West Virginians don't like to talk about that.

Anyways my point is, I'm not surprised, but I'm angry. Crap keeps happening like this and with C8 it caused birth defects, thyroid disease and so many other health problems. Now we got burning formaldehyde in the air for 3 days. If it isn't one environmental disaster it's another.

It never ****ing ends.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
How on earth did DuPont get away with this?
How could they not have been forced to clean up their mess?
I don't understand.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I used to live in Parkersburg and had a small farm in rural Wood County. It is a sad state of affairs. Nice city, and many fond memories.

I was also a Paramedic and worked the area, and I am familiar with the health problems of the region because of the chemical plants.
 
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Kapalika

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Made some edits to clarify that I was on foot in my travel; I wasn't gonna wait in downtown but damn it apparently downtown had better air.

How on earth did DuPont get away with this?
How could they not have been forced to clean up their mess?
I don't understand.

They did pay a settlement, very recently. The problem is, they covered it up for so long. This plant has been closed for a good while but I think they were the last to ever have it active.

I don't know if lawsuits can really solve it though. Paying a few million but they make even more during all that time. The law and it's enforcement needs to change. West Virginia has very little in way of environmental protections. Hence the water contamination in 2014, or the C8 scandal, or any number of other things going on.

Close by in Wayne County Ohio people want to start fracking in the state park. It's the entire Mid Ohio Valley that's got a problem. We don't call this "Chemical Valley" for nothing... that's actually a nickname for here...

I used to live in Parkersburg and had small farm in rural Wood County. It is a sad state of affairs. Nice city, and many fond memories.

I was also a Paramedic and worked the area, and I am familiar with the health problems of the region because of the chemical plants.

Holy crap! Small world. I've lived around Wood County my entire life. You're right about the chemical plants. I wish more could be done about it but most people are too apathetic to care it seems, or absorbed in their own woes either financial or drama.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Made some edits to clarify that I was on foot in my travel; I wasn't gonna wait in downtown but damn it apparently downtown had better air.



They did pay a settlement, very recently. The problem is, they covered it up for so long. This plant has been closed for a good while but I think they were the last to ever have it active.

I don't know if lawsuits can really solve it though. Paying a few million but they make even more during all that time. The law and it's enforcement needs to change. West Virginia has very little in way of environmental protections. Hence the water contamination in 2014, or the C8 scandal, or any number of other things going on.

Close by in Wayne County Ohio people want to start fracking in the state park. It's the entire Mid Ohio Valley that's got a problem. We don't call this "Chemical Valley" for nothing... that's actually a nickname for here...



Holy crap! Small world. I've lived around Wood County my entire life. You're right about the chemical plants. I wish more could be done about it but most people are too apathetic to care it seems, or absorbed in their own woes either financial or drama.

My favorite land mark was the Quaker State windmill gas station in downtown Parkersburg.
 

Kapalika

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note/correction to OP: I accidentally said "gas mask" when meaning "mask" in the OP, as in like a more common white cupped mask to stop contamination. The ones I saw people have were Sorry if that painted the wrong picture.

Small update.

My mom went to downtown Parkersburg for something and apparently it was "horrible" then, but then was better later and got worse up in Vienna. A lot of the warnings were to stay out of downtown in case it blew over. Seems that happened tonight and got pretty bad.

There wasn't a lot of traffic in town today, much less than usual, after rush hour. People are not really going outside as much as I would of thought (I guess people realize it's kinda serious).

Anyways I've heard/read conflicting things about the "safety" of the situation. Apparently the physical material to fall to the ground wasn't unsafe but the smoke/air is "acceptable" overall but yet we are told to stay indoors and to wear masks in case a bunch of it blows over. I can smell it for miles all around the area. I'm going with burned plastic and formaldehyde smoke is bad to breathe.
 
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sun rise

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That's a real mess. Maybe what we need is not regulation but a law allowing corporate officers to be put in the slammer for 10-20 years if they allow such things to happen or even be subject to manslaughter or worse charges when people die.
 

Kapalika

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pic from 2 days ago I stumbled across, another Arial shot. Can clearly see southside on the right, downtown right in the center
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
note/correction to OP: I accidentally said "gas mask" when meaning "mask" in the OP, as in like a more common white cupped mask to stop contamination. The ones I saw people have were Sorry if that painted the wrong picture.

One sort of heads up is the simple cupped mask is not real functional as far as protecting the one who wears it. You need not get a full gas mask, but more effective masks with exterior filters would work better. Unfortunately the best way is avoiding the area all together.

I had a lot of OSHA training while a geologist and soil scientist, which covered this topic.
 
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