Working For Amazon

[Shadow Wolf]

Over here there are purported shareholder laws passed that if a CEO dosent maximize profits he or she could actually go to jail.


Are U.S companies legally obligated to maximize profits for shareholders?


But this assessment traverses the spectrum as being mixed with myth and fact.

If true, it would explain the heartless cold business decisions made by companies like Amazon.

Jury on that one is still out with me weither its actually true or not.

One thing for certain though, is the proliferation of profit centered CEOs and less and less Company centered CEOs causing all the problems for the common worker.

Assuming it is entirely untrue and false, the company still has to face shareholders expecting the business to wipe their rears.
We could probably get a lot done if we regulated and heavily taxed shareholder earnings (really, the ones so wealthy they buy enough to demand a company **** on its workers and put in executives who will) to reduce shareholder influence and ability to live lavishly just by already having lots of money.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Assuming it is entirely untrue and false, the company still has to face shareholders expecting the business to wipe their rears.
We could probably get a lot done if we regulated and heavily taxed shareholder earnings (really, the ones so wealthy they buy enough to demand a company **** on its workers and put in executives who will) to reduce shareholder influence and ability to live lavishly just by already having lots of money.

I think golden parachutes should be illegal but it's contracted so I'm guessing there is nothing that can be done about it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think golden parachutes should be illegal but it's contracted so I'm guessing there is nothing that can be done about it.

Yeah, those are also crap. You get fired then you should be like the rest of us and just get fired, no more, end of discussion. It's absurd the get "fired," but it's really more just send them off with far more money than we make in a year and told to go wreck another company.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I have worked in environments that I really did not like very much -- I'm doing it now, actually. (Why am I still working when I'm nearing 75? Because I can't stand the idea of being retired and having nothing useful to do. And I like getting up in the morning having somewhere to go.)

My attitude has always been, however, that so long as I am being paid, my first and biggest obligation is to do, to the best of my ability, what I am being paid to do. It is much less important to me that I enjoy doing it, than that I do it as well as possible.

And I have to say, that attitude always stood me in good stead.

 

[The Hammer]

In a local (massive) Amazon distribution centre staff keep empty plastic bottles on them because they don't get the breaks/time to get to the loo when they need to. Hopefully they'll be replaced by robots soon so they can go to the loo when needed.

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I'd just **** and **** on the floor. Deduct it from my wages *****.

 

[Secret Chief]

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I'd just **** and **** on the floor. Deduct it from my wages *****.

You'd be fired by AI within the hour.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I gal I know works for Amazon. We discussed the
news accounts of how nasty it is to work there.
Her view surprised me.
She said the public complainers are the lazy ones.
She likes working there. But problem employees
shirk work...something she must address regularly.

John Stossel has a video out defending Amazon. I have it stashed somewhere....here it is....

Spoiler: Stossel comments about the current Amazon huzbuzz

So that's the Stossel spin.

 

[Revoltingest]

In a local (massive) Amazon distribution centre staff keep empty plastic bottles on them because they don't get the breaks/time to get to the loo when they need to. Hopefully they'll be replaced by robots soon so they can go to the loo when needed.

Friend says they get 59 minutes for bathroom breaks.
It's amazing how people need to spend all 59 minutes
there.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I gal I know works for Amazon. We discussed the
news accounts of how nasty it is to work there.

The fact that you seem to provide a second-hand account speaks to the state of free speech (albeit one that likely would be approved of). But I think free speech is scarce, excepting what is allowed to the rich and the homeless. You will not find a youtube channel where blue collar workers talk directly about what their working conditions are like.

People are fired now by computer ai.

I've been thinking about it a little bit, and I think that maybe all technologies that conduct unwarranted searches probably err toward being dystopian. Modern society is becoming swamped by such things; by AI networks and security camera nests, probably ever since the invention of the clock. The clock is basically an idea that time can be wasted, and it must be used efficiently.

 

[Revoltingest]

The fact that you seem to provide a second-hand account speaks to the state of free speech. No one has free speech really, excepting the rich and the homeless. You will not find a youtube channel where blue collar workers talk directly about what their working conditions are like.

"Seem to provide"?
I stated that it was a 2nd hand account of a friend who
works there (albeit in different words). And she's blue collar.
And she appears to have freedom of speech.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

"Seem to provide"?
I stated that it was a 2nd hand account of a friend who
works there (albeit in different words). And she's blue collar.
And she appears to have freedom of speech.

They provided you a certain perspective, likely one the company would approve of. I have no particular reason to trust it. And although I also don't have a reason to trust the complainers, we can presume that their termination is far more likely. So what you are describing is the western workplace, and it seems like a pretty opaque situation, because speech seems so diffuse and fractionated. And so, we rely on stories

 

[Revoltingest]

They provided you a certain perspective, likely one the company would approve of. I have no particular reason to trust it. And although I also don't have a reason to trust the complainers, we can presume that their termination is far more likely. So what you are describing is the western workplace, and it seems like a pretty opaque situation, because speech seems so diffuse and fractionated. And so, we rely on stories

I've not personally investigated her workplace.
Take the OP for what it's worth.

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

Everybody in this thread seems to be on the extremes regarding economic theory. Can't we all just agree alongside @Evangelicalhumanist that having a job and something to work forward in general is better than staying home all the time? I am disabled, and I have been conditioned to live off of welfare and half of the time I hate it because I feel like I'm not contributing anything to society. Amazon may or may not be a fair company but let's all thank them and the workers for their hard work delivering almost everything to us on a timely matter.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Friend says they get 59 minutes for bathroom breaks.
It's amazing how people need to spend all 59 minutes
there.

Well, in the case of men, I'm afraid it's not washing their hands! Many studies have proved that. And with women, I rather suspect the majority of the time is in conversation about the other members of the party who don't happen to be in the loo at the moment. (All perfectly kind, loving and uncritical, of course!)

Those of us who use the porcelain for what it's designed for know that a man takes about 2 minutes to pee, a second-and-a-half to wash his hands, and does that only 6-8 times a day, and that therefore it ought to be reasonable to ration us to 16 minutes and 12 seconds to relieve ourselves. The company will be very grateful for your cooperation, and thanks you in advance.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I have worked in environments that I really did not like very much -- I'm doing it now, actually. (Why am I still working when I'm nearing 75? Because I can't stand the idea of being retired and having nothing useful to do. And I like getting up in the morning having somewhere to go.)

My attitude has always been, however, that so long as I am being paid, my first and biggest obligation is to do, to the best of my ability, what I am being paid to do. It is much less important to me that I enjoy doing it, than that I do it as well as possible.

And I have to say, that attitude always stood me in good stead.

well, what's your position on overtime. I am being kind of being subtly pressured to do it right now, but honestly I have better things to do. I'd rather take a 20 mile bike ride on one of these end-of-summer weekends, or create music. I don't want to go help out in plant every day of my life. They stress me out there sometimes, and get easily confused. If I am taking a 10 mile walk at dawn instead, there are no misunderstandings, and all I hear are birds singing

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Indeed, and if the established unions don’t step up they should form their own, like the mostly immigrant office cleaners in the City of London did. Some employers refuse to recognise unions though, pretty sure Amazon is one of those

The US just had its very first Amazon union established in April of this year. I think it took Covid safety violations to be the final nail that got that ball rolling. Curious to see what changes they manage to deliberate for.

 

[Dao Hao Now]

I gal I know works for Amazon. We discussed the
news accounts of how nasty it is to work there.
Her view surprised me.
She said the public complainers are the lazy ones.
She likes working there. But problem employees
shirk work...something she must address regularly.

When you say “something she must address regularly”, might one assume she is in management?

 

[Revoltingest]

When you say “something she must address regularly”, might one assume she is in management?

I'll bet she wishes she were.
She's recovering from an injury...manual labor, ya know.
But she has responsibilities over & above grunt work.

 

[Secret Chief]

Friend says they get 59 minutes for bathroom breaks.
It's amazing how people need to spend all 59 minutes
there.

Maybe it's different in the UK? Some places only allow 30 minutes for lunch, never mind loo breaks. If you really do mean loo breaks then I would confidently say NO UK employer would provide 59 minutes for loo breaks (during a 7- 8 working hour day). The person who told me this works for Amazon. He didn't tell me they had 59 minutes for loo breaks, he told me people (including him) kept bottles on them. I'm simply reporting what he told me. Perhaps he feels the need to lie to me? A hard working employee, **** working practices. But then you typically seem to take the employer's side.

 

[Secret Chief]

Googling provides plenty of examples. First random one:

"Over the past few years, the work conditions and practices inside Amazon's warehouses and distribution centers have come under national scrutiny. Several workers have reportedly been injured or died on the job — earning the online commerce giant a spot on the National Council for Occupational Safety and Health's 2019 Dirty Dozen list of most dangerous employers in the United States."

- Just How Bad Are Amazon's Workplace Conditions?