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Would a rational Deity, demand circumcision?

would a rational deity demand circumcision?


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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Humans engage in circumcision because of a supposed directive from god. And the question as to whether this is a rational directive or not seems quite relevant to the rationality of god.

Why would a rational god care about anything one, primitive species does, who have existed for a bare instant of time on one, tiny speck of a planet?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Why would a rational god care about anything one, primitive species does, who have existed for a bare instant of time on one, tiny speck of a planet?
Hey, ya gotta stay with the story here. It's like asking how the wolf in the Three Little Pigs story could huff, and puff, and blow their house in. It's a given.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
To me the difference is that a Jew was circumcised in the flesh and a Christian is circumcised in the heart. However, some circumcised Jews became Christians.

And some non circumcised Christians undergo circumcision to become Jewish.
 

NulliuSINverba

Active Member
Whatever your theological beliefs are, on the matter, would a rational Deity demand circumcision?
/Or deities, since this isn't religious specific

Ritualized genital mutilation must have been a part of His Plan® from the get-go, as he allegedly announced that his creation was "very good" when he was done with it. If He seriously found foreskins distasteful (in the aesthetic sense, of course) ... would he have included them in the anatomy of his creations for no good reason?

Perhaps he planned to create a universe that contained things he found distasteful just so he could enjoy the pleasure of seeing these things eradicated on a local level amongst his allegedly Chosen People?

Or maybe (since the more one examines issues like this the less they make any sense whatsoever) we should just clasp our hands together ... gaze upwards wistfully ... and mumble vague verbiage about "mysteries?"

Nothing like trying to answer a question by appealing to an even greater mystery, right?

:::shrug:::

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"And on the eighth day, when he had rested ...
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... he noticed that his creation's junk needed editing."
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Funny thread. But if you give an internet mouse a circumcision, he will likely want to engage in a long drawn out, emotional discussion on the topic....


given the assumptions here that God existence is rational, Gods communication with man is rational, Gods "laws" are rational, then yes a covenent with this entity involving circumcision would then too be rational.

But if we assume nothing, then god's existence is not rational. Therefore any seemingly irrational commands issued from this irrational being would rationally be irrational :-D so, again the answer is yes.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
given the assumptions here that God existence is rational, Gods communication with man is rational, Gods "laws" are rational, then yes a covenent with this entity involving circumcision would then too be rational.
So, we could infer that the Covenant with the Christians, ie spiritual circumcision, is rational.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
No. You can infer nothing because it would be based off too many assumptions that are arguably, not rational.

Fine, so what part is rational, and what isn't? If there are too many assumptions for spiritual circumcision, then there are too many assumptions for physical circumcision, imo.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Fine, so what part is rational, and what isn't? If there are too many assumptions for spiritual circumcision, then there are too many assumptions for physical circumcision, imo.
Sure, I will agree that there are too many assumptions to deem physical circumcision rational (just as I would agree there are too many assumptions to deem going to church rational), but as it is not harmful it doesn't really present any problems.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Sure, I will agree that there are too many assumptions to deem physical circumcision rational (just as I would agree there are too many assumptions to deem going to church rational), but as it is not harmful it doesn't really present any problems.

I basically agree with the NT on this.
 
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