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Would any Muslim like to have a one-on-one debate about the trinity?

ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
I've noticed, and no offensive, that some Muslims seem to have very little understanding of proper Christian doctirnes, one of these being the Trinity, I'd love to hear someone else view, or debate them in the one-on-one debate
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
I think i understand the Trinity.
Trinity : the Father, the Son (Jesus wich is God or the Word of God in flesh) and the Holy Spirit

I can understand the doctrine but I don't understand how you can believe in it, because of many, many biblical verses like : Jesus saying that God is greater than him, and accordind to the fact that Jesus used to pray to God, so himself.
It's much more easy to understand someone who believe that Jesus is "just" the Son that someone who believe on the Trinity
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
i'm muslim, but i'm no scholar on christianity nor the trinity. i have asked about the trinity but no ones seems to be able to explain it. to debate you means to know what christians believe, but since i don't know that (see reason above) then i see no point to debate you on it. i only know what islam says. i do know what christians believe but it doesn't many any sense to me, since it doesn't make sense how can i debate you on it?
 

elmarna

Well-Known Member
Since my father was a baptist minister I understand the trinity quite well.
Understandinging it and realizeing it...
I am at a loss why you feel it is nesesary to debate it since islam does not recognize the worship of jesus(PBUH) as god.
Never the less I will debate you!
You can start first.
 

ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
I think i understand the Trinity.
Trinity : the Father, the Son (Jesus wich is God or the Word of God in flesh) and the Holy Spirit

I can understand the doctrine but I don't understand how you can believe in it, because of many, many biblical verses like : Jesus saying that God is greater than him, and accordind to the fact that Jesus used to pray to God, so himself.
It's much more easy to understand someone who believe that Jesus is "just" the Son that someone who believe on the Trinity
Would you like to have a debate with me in the one-on-one debate section, We can dicuss if Jesus was God, and how that all relates to the Trinity,
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
why does it have to be 1on1? lets go into the comparative section and both sides made up of many members can debate the issue. i think that would work better.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Would you like to have a debate with me in the one-on-one debate section, We can dicuss if Jesus was God, and how that all relates to the Trinity,

Seems like everybody want to participate :)
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
to have a 1on1 debate, both sides need to be highly knowledgeable about their own beliefs, however neither side has a scholar among it's members, if the debate is with more than 2 people - one on each side - then other members may compensate the lack of knowledge of the other member which would make it a much better discussion. thats my opinion anyway.
 

Shermana

Heretic
I've noticed, and no offensive, that some Muslims seem to have very little understanding of proper Christian doctirnes, one of these being the Trinity, I'd love to hear someone else view, or debate them in the one-on-one debate

How about a debate with a Nazarene Jew instead?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
whats the point of a jew debating a christian on jesus, when jews don't accept him as a prophet? do you accept him as a prophet?
 

elmarna

Well-Known Member
Can this debate be on 2 points of view?
Shermana does not have to worship jesus (PBUH) to have a opinion about him or the trinity.
Keeping with the spirit of this thread - a sharing of opinions in different objectivity.
I see nothing wrong with the post!
What out come comes from this is what is decided be the 1 who started the thread.
I will keep checking the thread and see how it goes!
 

Shermana

Heretic
whats the point of a jew debating a christian on jesus, when jews don't accept him as a prophet? do you accept him as a prophet?

Perhaps you didn't see the "Nazarene" part. I accept him as the Moshiach, which is like Prophet ++. The incarnation of the highest angel and first created soul, but not the Supreme Being himself.
 

elmarna

Well-Known Member
Thank you for shareing!
I did not knoe what Nazerene meant!
It is fot these moments I come to the forum - to learn, understand, and grow spiritually and to the higher understanding!
You made my day!
May all that comes your way be toward the higher good.
Bless you!
 

Shermana

Heretic
Thank you for shareing!
I did not knoe what Nazerene meant!
It is fot these moments I come to the forum - to learn, understand, and grow spiritually and to the higher understanding!
You made my day!
May all that comes your way be toward the higher good.
Bless you!

May you be blessed as well.

For the record, a "Nazarene" was originally a sect of Jews who were considered heretics by the Pharisees, they may have been the inhabitants of the "Town of Nazareth", and since its called Jesus' home town, he may have been among this sect. The "essenes" who are associated with the Dead Sea Scrolls and even "Ebionites" may have been branches of them. But for the most part, a "Nazarene" came to be identified as a member of the early Jewish Christian sect who were particularly opposed to Paul and the "Orthodox" Trinitarians.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Can this debate be on 2 points of view?
Shermana does not have to worship jesus (PBUH) to have a opinion about him or the trinity.
Keeping with the spirit of this thread - a sharing of opinions in different objectivity.
I see nothing wrong with the post!
What out come comes from this is what is decided be the 1 who started the thread.
I will keep checking the thread and see how it goes!

i guess i didn't think through this, it would actually be nice to have the three abrahamic fatihs discuss the matter of Jesus. don't know how many are willing to but it would be nice.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Perhaps you didn't see the "Nazarene" part. I accept him as the Moshiach, which is like Prophet ++. The incarnation of the highest angel and first created soul, but not the Supreme Being himself.

i noticed the Nazarene, when i saw it i thought Jesus of Nazareth like the christians say i realized a similarity but didn't know you believed in him.

since you mention that, what scripture does your faith follow and can you quote something from it that speaks about Jesus being an incarnation of the highest angel. i'd like to know a bit more about this belief, first time i hear about it. should i make a thread in the DIR and ask the question there or do you want to answer here?
 

ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
The problem I have with not having a one on one is that most the Christians on this forum have so many vary views of the Trinity, and I can only represent what I find to be most Biblical and have come to accept, I'd also rather not have all the Muslims on the forums gang up on little old me
 
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