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Would Christianity be better off

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
No. The reason why they translated the bible from Latin was to put it in a language in which everyone could read. Because in Catholism back then the only people allowed to read the bible was the priest so basically they could say whatever the hell they wanted too. But a bunch of prostants in I think 1610 decided that everyone should be able to read the bible and thats when the KJV was deceded to be translated.
 

Dunemeister

Well-Known Member
Contrary to Protestant propaganda, the RCC wasn't trying to prevent translations into the vernacular. Rather, they opposed the methods and principles being employed by rogue translators. The early translations of scripture into English, whatever virtues they enjoyed, were much less translations than polemical commentaries.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I believe Christianity 'would be better off' if they didn't exclude valuable books from it history because it did fit into proving the theology that Jesus is God.

How cool would a Bible be with The Gospel of Thomas or The Book of Enoch?
 

Antibush5

Active Member
Hows about I expand on why I think Christianity would be better off without the bible being readable to the common man. It would stop bible litralists, like the westbro baptist church, there wouldn't be as many sects of Christianity, which in the end is good for a faith like that.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
I believe Christianity 'would be better off' if they didn't exclude valuable books from it history because it did fit into proving the theology that Jesus is God.

How cool would a Bible be with The Gospel of Thomas or The Book of Enoch?

I concur. It's a shame they took out some of the good books like the Gopsel of Thomas. I have heard it on audio and I really like it. If they left all the books in, the Bible I think would be even more successful.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
Hows about I expand on why I think Christianity would be better off without the bible being readable to the common man. It would stop bible litralists, like the westbro baptist church, there wouldn't be as many sects of Christianity, which in the end is good for a faith like that.

Instead of those who take the Bible literally, you would have those who take the word of the priest literally; different format, but the same problem. And, as was the problem at the time around the Reformation, the common guy wouldn't know if the clergy was actually giving the truth.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Hows about I expand on why I think Christianity would be better off without the bible being readable to the common man. It would stop bible litralists, like the westbro baptist church, there wouldn't be as many sects of Christianity, which in the end is good for a faith like that.
The church has always been divided into "sects."
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I concur. It's a shame they took out some of the good books like the Gopsel of Thomas. I have heard it on audio and I really like it. If they left all the books in, the Bible I think would be even more successful.
They didn't "take it out." It was never "in," since the earliest manuscript wasn't "found" until long after the canonization process. And it wasn't in Latin. Or Greek.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I concur. It's a shame they took out some of the good books like the Gopsel of Thomas. I have heard it on audio and I really like it. If they left all the books in, the Bible I think would be even more successful.


I think if it wasn't for the taking away of the Mystery I'd still be Christian. For instance, the reason I ever 'strayed' was to read about meditation, which wasn't talked about in my Protestant home, however since volunteering with Catholic and Anlgicans at a Spiritual counseling/drop in centre I've learned a great deal about it and it's given a me a beautiful language of connectedness to speak when I'm talking with Christian clients.

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SageTree
 

wmjbyatt

Lunatic from birth
What do you mean when you say "better off"? That's not a simple question. Christendom would probably be more thoroughly consolidated and less factious, but it's arguable that it would also be less relevant to the modern day and Christianity could, feasibly, be dying.

But it's a moot point. How in the hell could the Church prevent translations from escaping in this modern era? Even if the Mother Church and Orthodox schismatics used Latin texts still, secularists and other schismatics would have produced a translation. EVERYTHING gets translated these days. You can find the Q'uran in English pretty easily, despite the fact that essentially all Islamic sects still say it only counts in Arabic.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
No. The reason why they translated the bible from Latin was to put it in a language in which everyone could read. Because in Catholism back then the only people allowed to read the bible was the priest so basically they could say whatever the hell they wanted too. But a bunch of prostants in I think 1610 decided that everyone should be able to read the bible and thats when the KJV was deceded to be translated.

Oh, neato. English is the one language that everyone understands.And the KJV is more accurate than even the original texts from which they were translated.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
They didn't "take it out." It was never "in," since the earliest manuscript wasn't "found" until long after the canonization process. And it wasn't in Latin. Or Greek.

Even if it wasn't in the early NT, it still could be considered Christian since a lot of the verses and sayings in the GoT are attributed to Jesus Christ. And besides, why should it matter that it was in Coptic?
 

Smoke

Done here.
I think Christianity would be better off if they'd never translated the Bible into Latin to start with. I think the Eastern theologians were onto something when they said that neither the Latin language nor the Latin theologians themselves were sufficiently subtle for first-rate theology.
 
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