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Would Representative Democracy Survive?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Suppose terrorists got hold of a nuclear bomb and set it off in New York, London, Toronto, or Sydney. Do you think our representative democracies would survive even one such attack? Or would that be the end of our liberties? Would the attack pave the way for a dictatorship? What would happen in the aftermath?
 

DreamQuickBook

Active Member
Sunstone said:
Suppose terrorists got hold of a nuclear bomb and set it off in New York, London, Toronto, or Sydney. Do you think our representative democracies would survive even one such attack? Or would that be the end of our liberties? Would the attack pave the way for a dictatorship? What would happen in the aftermath?

Yes. Of course. The world would never be the same. If we got nuked...you can bet our military would have nuked the countries they thought were involved. The question I think, is most important is, whether or not the global economy would survive. (without a good worldwide economy, I'm not sure a representative government will work in America - not enough independant, self-reliant, people. too many people dependant on government for everything).
 

Ori

Angel slayer
Imagine the leaders of the world in a custard pie fight, now replace the pies with nuclear weapons.
 

DreamQuickBook

Active Member
TheJedi said:
Would Representative Democracy survive? I doubt anything would survive. Except maybe australia. They dont have any nukes.

The world can easily survive a Nuclear War (which is what makes the idea so dangerous). Basically, the real dangers are:

1. India Nuking Pakistan and Pakistan Nuking India.
2. Israel Nuking Syria, Iraq & Iran.

Whatever other nukes go off in the world won't amount to much. Just the destruction of a few major cities. Nothing we can't come back from.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Jocose said:
The world can easily survive a Nuclear War (which is what makes the idea so dangerous). Basically, the real dangers are:

1. India Nuking Pakistan and Pakistan Nuking India.
2. Israel Nuking Syria, Iraq & Iran.

Whatever other nukes go off in the world won't amount to much. Just the destruction of a few major cities. Nothing we can't come back from.
Oh that's O.K then - just a few million dead - no real problem...........just a few major cities; who cares ?:help:
 

DreamQuickBook

Active Member
michel said:
Oh that's O.K then - just a few million dead - no real problem...........just a few major cities; who cares ?:help:

The QUESTION was... would democracy survive. Not whether or not it would be a tragedy. I just kind of assumed everyone would realize that without me pointing it out.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
i think that the first nuke (hiroshima) was a demonstration of power from the Us to russia, and boy did it prove the point!

i think that nuclear weaponry has reached such a point that we all have them to prevent everyone else risking bullying us, but if someone was to actually find the balls to bully us one trigger will be pulled, and that will be returned with another trigger, and so on and so forth, like a big snowball! its a shame, and i do hope it never happens.

i personally will never return violence with violence, i will never pull a triger! even if in the face of nuclear war i will not fight, even to protect my family. i completely condemn the hiroshima, i think the US still have not done enough to help the people there in the aftermath, but saying that i dont think englad has done enough either - i think i might actually research this, im sat at my computer now thinking how i would feel if it were me, how much help i would want, and i think im actually going to find a way of helping

C_P
 

tcravs

New Member
Fat Kat Matt said:
Would Representative Democracy survive? I doubt anything would survive. Except maybe australia. They dont have any nukes.
Australia doesnt have nukes because America basically tells the world its only OK for them to have nukes. Completly stupid, but hey you cant stop arragorant americans
 

mr.guy

crapsack
I think MAD has proven effective. The americans haven't bombed a single country since it's inception.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The americans haven't bombed a single country since it's inception.
Alot of countries have nukes now, and if America were to launch one, it would essentially be like putting a nuclear target over America with D.C. on the bulls-eye.

I think that a nuclear attack would kill Represenative Democracy. Martial Law would be declared in a heart beat, and all freedoms would suddenly vanish. And for safties sake, a new government, similiar to a dictatorship, is established.
 

Ardent Listener

Active Member
For those who truly believe in democracy now, democracy would survive. It is already lost for those who don't believe in it.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Jocose said:
The QUESTION was... would democracy survive. Not whether or not it would be a tragedy. I just kind of assumed everyone would realize that without me pointing it out.
Perhaps a better question would be: is democracy and representative government surviving September 11, 2001? We lost 3000 people and the Patriot Act gave unprecedented powers to Shrub at a great cost to civil liberties. We have not "bounced back" yet, and it is possible that the liberties that we lost in the aftermath of 9-11 will never be recovered.
 

mr.guy

crapsack
Ardent Listener said:
For those who truly believe in democracy now, democracy would survive. It is already lost for those who don't believe in it.
Ahh...so it wouldn't be an (american) Arab's shade of skin lost him half the day through airport security and or arbitrary deportation. It would be his/her lack of belief that nixed what democratic rights, one should expect. Can we revive democracy? If it can be done with Tinkerbell with "belief", it might apply across the board.
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
Mike182 said:
i personally will never return violence with violence, i will never pull a triger! even if in the face of nuclear war i will not fight, even to protect my family.
C_P
Boy am I ever thankful my safety does not depend upon the likes of you. It is with the blood of better men that the safety and freedom to develop such a world view exists.

You would not use violence even to protect your family? Choosing not to protect yourself is one thing, choosing not to protect those you brought into this world is appalling.

B.
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
Would democracy survive a nuclear attack? Well, first of all we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy, but if the question is, would our current form of governent survive, then yes, absolutely. Martial law would no doubt be imposed for a time, as it would have to be. But we are not going to simply burn the Constitution and start all over with a dictatorship just because someone bombed us.

Sadly I fear this question will not be a hypothetical forever. It is probably only a matter of time before an extremist group such as al-Quaeda gets there hands on a nuclear weapon. Keeping their grubby paws off such weapons must be one of our highest priorities if we want to protect our citizens. As such it will likely require some pre-emptive strikes and will definately not be clean or free from mistakes.

We all want terrorists not to get their hands on nukes (I hope) but I predict much crying and caterwalling at the methods we will have to use to keep this from happening.

B.
 
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