Would you die for God?

[Tina57]

Life is precious to God. To take ones life with no idea of what compels one - as in check with doctor are there medical imbalances - is to treat it with no regard for the Creator of life. Consider this profound verse at Revelation 4:11 "You are worthy, Jehovah our God to receive the glory and the honor and the power because you created all things and because of your will they came into existence and were created." Did you know God has feelings? When Israel wander after leaving Egypt for 40 years Psalm 78:40 said - "How often they rebelled against him in the wilderness And made him feel hurt in the desert." What we do and how we live our lives can have an affect on God.
Proverbs 27:11 "Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice. So that I can make a reply to him who taunts me."
Life is precious and Ecclesiastes 3:11 says "He (God) has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their (men's) heart yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish."
To answer your question if one would give their life for God - yes I would but I know why I would be doing it for. Matthew 5:10 Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness sake since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."
Matthew 24: 9 "Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name."
Perhaps you may need to explore the purpose of life then maybe you will know what you truly want to do. It seems very bleak that you would consider a course that would bring grief and devastation to your family and friends. God sent his Son so you could come to know him and have everlasting life. John 17:3 3:16 It doesn't make sense that God would create such beauty and variety even in human life to expect one to die without you knowing why? James 3:17 But the wisdom from above is first of all pure, then peaceable, reasonable, ready to obey, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial not hypocritical.
Kind regards
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[savagewind]

@Tina57
I think it is a good post, but it needs tweaking. It is hard to read the way it is posted.

 

[DavidFirth]

I don't feel as though it is suicide but rather God working through me to kill myself. They say God works through His creation so how could I be steered wrong? God is both good and evil.

Whatever it is that is inciting you to kill yourself it isn't God. Sounds like the work of Satan to me. Satan roams about like a lion, seeking whom he might destroy.

 

[David T]

As of late I have been feeling compelled by God to die as a sacrifice. I can't claim what compels me, instinct, intuition, love. My death would be quite brutal and it's terrifying.

I am fearful of death but if God is commanding it surely it must be what needs to be done?

Would you be willing to lay down your life for the Creator?

Never realised that people have a fantasy that God and dead are literally separatable!!! Novel fantasy that I think is normal! Interestingly early 1stt 2nd 3rd generation Christianity did not have that fantasy! They might have had a very real understanding of nature instead of this nonsense.

 

[sun rise]

I don't feel as though it is suicide but rather God working through me to kill myself. They say God works through His creation so how could I be steered wrong? God is both good and evil.

Please you need help. God does not work that way. It's not God steering you that way no matter how it appears. Please call 1-800-273-8255 and talk to them.

 

[Tina57]

@Tina57
I think it is a good post, but it needs tweaking. It is hard to read the way it is posted.

Sorry savagewind bit outofpractice xx

 

[savagewind]

Sorry savagewind bit outofpractice xx

You can copy (control c) it, then delete the post, then go back to the post that you replied to, click on "reply" and then copy (control v). You can fix it!
You do not have to give a reason for deleting the post.

 

[savagewind]

You can copy (control c) it, then delete the post, then go back to the post that you replied to, click on "reply" and then copy (control v). You can fix it!
You do not have to give a reason for deleting the post.

Always reply after the [/Quote]

 

[blü 2]

I am fearful of death but if God is commanding it surely it must be what needs to be done?

WHY is God commanding it? What worthwhile thing does God hope to achieve?

Who gains if you die? Not you, plainly.

If you organize your own death, what burden are you dumping on those who love you? And is that burden ultimately worse for being pointless?

What do your medical advisers say about this idea?

 

[Grandliseur]

As of late I have been feeling compelled by God to die as a sacrifice. I can't claim what compels me, instinct, intuition, love. My death would be quite brutal and it's terrifying.

I am fearful of death but if God is commanding it surely it must be what needs to be done?

Would you be willing to lay down your life for the Creator?

God doesn't want people to commit suicide - that is no desired sacrifice of his. That is insanity speaking.
If on the other hand, you were in the German SS Concentration camps and were asked to make a choice, renounce your faith or be shot, that would be the time to stand up for God.

It was the same choice Jesus had to make, keep serving God or deny him and keep living.

God doesn't love death; he loves life and you can only serve him while you live.

 

[syo]

As of late I have been feeling compelled by God to die as a sacrifice. I can't claim what compels me, instinct, intuition, love. My death would be quite brutal and it's terrifying.

I am fearful of death but if God is commanding it surely it must be what needs to be done?

Would you be willing to lay down your life for the Creator?

but we all gonna die. what a strange thread.

 

[Akivah]

As of late I have been feeling compelled by God to die as a sacrifice. I can't claim what compels me, instinct, intuition, love. My death would be quite brutal and it's terrifying.

I am fearful of death but if God is commanding it surely it must be what needs to be done?

G-d has already forbidden human sacrifice. This teaching is in the "Binding of Isaac". G-d tests Abraham by having him bring Isaac to the place of sacrifice. But as Abraham demonstrates his willingness to do the deed, G-d stops him and tells him not to sacrifice a human, but to sacrifice a ram instead.

 

[jackvincent]

How do you all feel about Jesus then? His crucifixion can be considered suicide because he had a choice in the matter. He literally chose to die, so why is this so shocking in the cosmic scheme of things?

Edit : Crucifixion is as natural as rainfall in the cosmos.

 

[Rise]

God, the one and only creator and ruler of all, is not asking you to sacrifice yourself.
However, satan, the one who is called the destroyer, liar, and enemy of man's soul, would seek to convince you of such lies.

Jesus, God Himself, already died once for all mankind so that you wouldn't have to. Therefore, God doesnt need, nor would he accept, you sacrificing yourself. Jesus was also sinless. The only man ever to be without sin, therefore the only one who had the power to lay down his life for those in sin to rescue them from sin and death. The death of a sinner atones for no one, and you, like everyone else, have sinned.

Fear of death is also not from God, because once you accept by faith the sacrifice Jesus made for you then death no longer has power over you because you will be resurrected to eternal life.

 

[jackvincent]

God, the one and only creator and ruler of all, is not asking you to sacrifice yourself.
However, satan, the one who is called the destroyer, liar, and enemy of man's soul, would seek to convince you of such lies.

Jesus, God Himself, already died once for all mankind so that you wouldn't have to. Therefore, God doesnt need, nor would he accept, you sacrificing yourself. Jesus was also sinless. The only man ever to be without sin, therefore the only one who had the power to lay down his life for those in sin to rescue them from sin and death. The death of a sinner atones for no one, and you, like everyone else, have sinned.

Fear of death is also not from God, because once you accept by faith the sacrifice Jesus made for you then death no longer has power over you because you will be resurrected to eternal life.

Why should Jesus have to die for my sins, shouldn't I die for my own sins? In a hostile universe that's relatively impersonal, how can anything else make sense?

There have been many martyrs throughout history. Aren't all of them Christ's as well?

For all I care we are all Christ. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Would you be willing to lay down your life for the Creator?

I would have to know and comprehend what I was dying for. If it was for the rest of the world to go on living? Sure. If it was because God was simply testing my "faith", no thank you.

If God refused to give me the details precisely and to my satisfaction? Not a chance. If God is willing to ask/compel, and not willing to provide the justification, I would let the entire world burn (along with myself obviously) before I would agree.

I suggest watching the movie "Cabin in the Woods". Puts a very interesting perspective on self-sacrifice.

 

[jackvincent]

I would have to know and comprehend what I was dying for. If it was for the rest of the world to go on living? Sure. If it was because God was simply testing my "faith", no thank you.

If God refused to give me the details precisely and to my satisfaction? Not a chance. If God is willing to ask/compel, and not willing to provide the justification, I would let the entire world burn (along with myself obviously) before I would agree.

I suggest watching the movie "Cabin in the Woods". Puts a very interesting perspective on self-sacrifice.

Let's say your death would be very gruesome, and after you physically died you would experience more intense spiritual suffering than you could imagine.

Your death and suffering would renew Earth and it's resources, cause worldwide peace and open the eyes of humanity to God's presence on Earth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sorry savagewind bit outofpractice xx

You'll find that occasionally you'll run into a problem quoting a post, and it will do what it did to you and include your response in the quote box.

How do you all feel about Jesus then? His crucifixion can be considered suicide because he had a choice in the matter. He literally chose to die, so why is this so shocking in the cosmic scheme of things?

Edit : Crucifixion is as natural as rainfall in the cosmos.

I don't believe Jesus was a divine person. Sure, he does sound a lot like a shaman, and I wouldn't doubt if there was a real person who did inspire the religious myths.
As for the story, I find it cruel and bloodthirsty. God's design was and plans were thwarted, so in his "infinite wisdom" saw fit to kill his son? Sounds more like a child throwing a tantrum, a bully who was clobbered good, or a tyrant who smells a threat to his rule.
And, no, crucifixions are not natural. It is a method of execution made by humans, not the cosmos.

 

[jackvincent]

You'll find that occasionally you'll run into a problem quoting a post, and it will do what it did to you and include your response in the quote box.

I don't believe Jesus was a divine person. Sure, he does sound a lot like a shaman, and I wouldn't doubt if there was a real person who did inspire the religious myths.
As for the story, I find it cruel and bloodthirsty. God's design was and plans were thwarted, so in his "infinite wisdom" saw fit to kill his son? Sounds more like a child throwing a tantrum, a bully who was clobbered good, or a tyrant who smells a threat to his rule.
And, no, crucifixions are not natural. It is a method of execution made by humans, not the cosmos.

Humans are made by the cosmos.

 

[Rise]

Why should Jesus have to die for my sins, shouldn't I die for my own sins? In a hostile universe that's relatively impersonal, how can anything else make sense?

Indeed every man will die for thier own sins, unless they recieve the gift Jesus provided by dying in our place. That is God's justice, which is right, and no one can escape from it.

However, it is pure mercy and love that God chose to become a man and die in our place, to rescue us. No one said the things of God had to always make sense to our finite mind. It is overwhelming if we stop to realize the magnitude of that event. The creator and ruler of all wanted to save us enough from death and eternal separation from Him in order to do that for us.

There have been many martyrs throughout history. Aren't all of them Christ's as well?

Martyrdom is never something sought out, but something done to Christians by others. It is never something they do to themselves.

In fact, it would be blasphemous to even suggest that a sinful man can sacrifice himself to gain anything of value from God, when everything is given to us by God as a free gift, if we will recieve it, because of the sacrifice that Jesus made on our behalf. Only Jesus was sinless and capable of doing that.

For all I care we are all Christ. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.

That is not what God has revealed to us about Himself through His spokesmen, and through Himself, as recorded in the Bible. We are individuals relating to God, or separated from Him. We owe everything to Him as creator.