Would you Lie?

[sojourner]

Which is why its a hypothetical. If you felt it would be advisable would you do it?

It's a fake hypothetical, like "could God make a rock so big, God couldn't move it?" I can't imagine a situation where it would ever be advisable to do that. Honesty is always best, because where this sort of counseling is concerned, it's about relationship and building trust. That can't be done if you're lying. I guess my answer is provisionally "no." I don't think I would ever feel that it's "advisable."

 

[Smart_Guy]

Which is why its a hypothetical.

Yeah, hypocrisy is bad

 

[oldbadger]

If it is already a given that you believe in god (or don't or whatever your position may be) and you know someone who is seeking answers and have not yet been convinced to join your side (which to reiterate you believe to be correct), would you lie to them about a situation or event in order to push them in the 'right' direction to believe?

No. Never. I would not, under any circumstances that I can think of, even try to suggest that a person believe what I do, or do what I do.
But...... )) ........ if I was to choose a religious group again, and if I was to tell folks that I belonged to a religious group again...... it would be Universalism, because I don't see any kind of a 'sell' about it, and just see folks who want to congregate in love and understanding..... but that's not a sell because I'm not one!

If you were a Christian would you every lie about an experience with god to help someone else get through a troubling time in their faith? If you knew that would assist them in staying in the faith?

Sadly, we lie. Don't worry about, say, a Christian lying to protect their faith, we lie about who broke the plate, what speed we were doing, do we have any goods to declare, we are liars. Find me a person who says they don't lie, and I will show you a liar!

 

[oldbadger]

Yeah, hypocrisy is bad

Hi Smart-Guy!
Hypothetical means : An imagined condition or situation.
Hypocritical means: Pretended standards.

Hey! If I want some Arabic translated in future, you're just the bloke! Can you also translate Aramaic as well as Arabic, by any chance?

 

[YmirGF]

If it is already a given that you believe in god (or don't or whatever your position may be) and you know someone who is seeking answers and have not yet been convinced to join your side (which to reiterate you believe to be correct), would you lie to them about a situation or event in order to push them in the 'right' direction to believe?

I much prefer the simplicity of unvarnished truth. Lies get so complicated.

If you were a Christian would you ever lie about an experience with god to help someone else get through a troubling time in their faith? If you knew that would assist them in staying in the faith?

I'm hard pressed to think of a situation where this would apply. I'm not the kind of person who can look at a person in pain and tell them that everything will be peachy.

 

[oldbadger]

I much prefer the simplicity of unvarnished truth. Lies get so complicated.

I'm hard pressed to think of a situation where this would apply. I'm not the kind of person who can look at a person in pain and tell them that everything will be peachy.

Hmmm..... you won't be any good as a politician then.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Hi Smart-Guy!
Hypothetical means : An imagined condition or situation.
Hypocritical means: Pretended standards.

Hey! If I want some Arabic translated in future, you're just the bloke! Can you also translate Aramaic as well as Arabic, by any chance?

I knew the difference between hypothesis and and hypocrisy btw. I was just playing around You know, like ghosts and goats

Just throw any thing at me and I'll translate it for you. And unfortunately no, I do not know Aramaic. I'm just a humble Arabic and English bilingual

 

[Smart_Guy]

Hey, of course I'd lie!

I mean, how can I sleep if I don't lie? (pretending I only read the title)

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

There is never a good reason to lie about anything.
Though some times it might be better not to say anything at all, if the truth could be damaging.
Sometimes it is better for someone not to know the truth.

All paths can lead to God, though some routes might appear very hard to understand.
The right path for me might be quite different to what is best for some one else.

 

[Secret Chief]

Lordy, no.

 

[Quintessence]

If it is already a given that you believe in god (or don't or whatever your position may be) and you know someone who is seeking answers and have not yet been convinced to join your side (which to reiterate you believe to be correct), would you lie to them about a situation or event in order to push them in the 'right' direction to believe?

May I ask why you ask?

The framing of your OP doesn't apply to many of us. It seems to presume an exclusivist mindset, which many of us lack. It also seems to presume a desire to control other people, which many of us lack, or a level of care about other people that many of us lack.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

May I ask why you ask?

The framing of your OP doesn't apply to many of us. It seems to presume an exclusivist mindset, which many of us lack. It also seems to presume a desire to control other people, which many of us lack, or a level of care about other people that many of us lack.

I have already answered this question in an above post. I want to see two things. Firstly is how much they really "believe" their own religious dogma's (such as inevitable hell for non-believers ect) and then the extent in which they are willing to go on those beliefs.

 

[Quintessence]

I have already answered this question in an above post. I want to see two things. Firstly is how much they really "believe" their own religious dogma's (such as inevitable hell for non-believers ect) and then the extent in which they are willing to go on those beliefs.

I think that there's a potential here to read some things into people's responses that are assumptions. How ideologies translate into tangible behaviors is complicated and influenced by many other factors. I would not presume to say that because a person doesn't demonstrate particular behaviors, that they don't "really" believe that particular ideology.

At any rate, I can't really answer the question of the OP as it doesn't seem to apply to my religion. *shrug*

 

[Monk Of Reason]

I think that there's a potential here to read some things into people's responses that are assumptions. How ideologies translate into tangible behaviors is complicated and influenced by many other factors. I would not presume to say that because a person doesn't demonstrate particular behaviors, that they don't "really" believe that particular ideology.

At any rate, I can't really answer the question of the OP as it doesn't seem to apply to my religion. *shrug*

We can identify and observe the behavior of individuals based upon specific beliefs. There is a whole branch of psychology and in sociology on it. This "purpose" other than specifically debate was to hopefully have critical thinking on one's own beliefs and how they affect or in some cases don't affect, their actions. It is a complicated mess of different beliefs and factors that eventually form how we behave but beliefs are easy to isolate in many cases.

 

[Bird123]

Many do lie because they value either being right at any cost or that their beliefs are more important than even the truth.
As for myself, I point people in the direction by which they can discover the truth for themselves. Look at this world. Answers are to be discovered. If they were just given to us, we would not acquire the wisdom that is learned through the journey. With this in mind, one should not strive to control the thinking of others toward any specific belief.
Truth will always be the same at the end of the journey of those who really seek it. Beliefs often stray one away from truth. Still, it is a path many choose to take. Just like everything in this world, it is a Learning Experience.

 

[Norman]

If it is already a given that you believe in god (or don't or whatever your position may be) and you know someone who is seeking answers and have not yet been convinced to join your side (which to reiterate you believe to be correct), would you lie to them about a situation or event in order to push them in the 'right' direction to believe?

If you were a Christian would you every lie about an experience with god to help someone else get through a troubling time in their faith? If you knew that would assist them in staying in the faith?

Hi, Monk Of Reason, no, I would not lie.