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Would you rat out an illegal immigrant?

Hmm?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 22.6%
  • No

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 5 16.1%

  • Total voters
    31

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
If one of your co-workers was an illegal immigrant and he's not guilty of any other crime, would you rat him/her out?
 

robtex

Veteran Member
If one of your co-workers was an illegal immigrant and he's not guilty of any other crime, would you rat him/her out?

Gene, you and I live within a few hours of one another and have pretty much the same demographics and info-structure. I don't think there is anyone to "rat them out" to. There isn't an info-structure in place that can address illegal immigration on a micro-level. Only one on a macro level. From the times I have seen illegal immigration act on an event it is a few of them driving a truck to a blue collar business and shipping a slew of them off as a group. One person isn't a thing immigration can deal with right now due to resources irregardless of what is reported. I am not trying to dodge the question but rather say it doesn't matter in terms of ones and two because nothing will likely happen whether it is reported or not. Based on that perception I wouldn't report that person.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Probably not; I've known scores of illegal aliens, and I've never ratted one out yet. But I voted maybe, because I can't completely rule the idea out.
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Absolutely not. But, I'd encourage him/her to work toward becoming a citizen and would probably help them figure out how.
 

robtex

Veteran Member
Absolutely not. But, I'd encourage him/her to work toward becoming a citizen and would probably help them figure out how.

Rhonda, outside of marriage to a US citizen or a work visa working towards permanent employment it is really hard if not impossible to get citizenship. I know a guy from El Salvador who served in the military as a immigrant and fought in Afghanistan two years ago to get citizenship now that I think of it. The other exception I can think of is student visas. My Turkish friend who is a student at the University of Texas got approved on a student visa. Most of the illegals I meet down here in Texas are blue collar workers who are broke from Mexico who couldn't qualify for military or student visas as far as I can tell.
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Rhonda, outside of marriage to a US citizen or a work visa working towards permanent employment it is really hard if not impossible to get citizenship. I know a guy from El Salvador who served in the military as a immigrant and fought in Afghanistan two years ago to get citizenship now that I think of it. The other exception I can think of is student visas. My Turkish friend who is a student at the University of Texas got approved on a student visa. Most of the illegals I meet down here in Texas are blue collar workers who are broke from Mexico who couldn't qualify for military or student visas as far as I can tell.
Immigration laws (aside from marriage) are a subject I know nothing about I admit. I do know that Hispanics are the majority in California now. Are you saying that virtually none of them will ever be citizens except those who have babies born in the US?
 

Smoke

Done here.
Immigration laws (aside from marriage) are a subject I know nothing about I admit. I do know that Hispanics are the majority in California now. Are you saying that virtually none of them will ever be citizens except those who have babies born in the US?
Even that's no guarantee. The babies born here are automatically citizens, but their parents are in the same position legally as if they'd never had a child. At least, until the child grows up and decides to sponsor them for immigration. There have been numerous cases this year of mothers being deported without their children.

Ireland actually did provide that the parents of a child born in Ireland automatically became citizens, but so many people came to Ireland to given birth that they changed the law. Irish citizenship law, and my father's inaction, are a longstanding source of irritation to me. My father is eligible for dual citizenship, and if he had applied for it before 1986, I would have been, too. But now it's too late; the law changed.
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
I dont think I would rat out someone, though I'd be outspoken to them about what I think of the matter. Naturally, if someone is working towards their visa, I dont have a problem.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Short answer: No.

Long answer: If somones life in another country is so miserable that they feel the need to go that extreme, I'm not going to try and deny them.
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
If one of your co-workers was an illegal immigrant and he's not guilty of any other crime, would you rat him/her out?

If one of your co-workers stole money from your company but wasn't guilty of any other crime, would you rat him/her out?
 

Doodah

Member
If the only thing he or she was guilty of, was being here, then not a chance... that is up to the government. You would have to be a right c*** to do that.
Although if it was a religious extremist then I would rat on them with pleasure ( but not to the police)
 

ayani

member
nah. i know a bunch of "illegal" immigrants, and they're good friends of mine. it really doesn't matter to me. if they wanted to find a quick way to get citizenship, i'd offer a hand, but i'm certainly not going to blow a whistle on someone.
 

standing_alone

Well-Known Member
If one of your co-workers was an illegal immigrant and he's not guilty of any other crime, would you rat him/her out?

Most likely not. I'd be more upset with my employer who views illegal immigrants as a labor pool fit for his/her exploitation. I would have a hard time reporting someone who was merely trying to make life more tolerable for him/herself and, as it may be, his/her family.
 

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
I'd be more upset with my employer who views illegal immigrants as a labor pool fit for his/her exploitation.
That's a really good point. If we didn't have employers offering jobs to non-citizens, illegal immigration would be much less of an issue. Our problems are mostly caused by legal citizens after personal gain at the expense of society.

It's hard to blame illegals who receive a tacit invitation to better their lives.
 
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