esmith
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This was the blue wave?
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xray
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There won't be much in the way of a Blue Wave unless and until:
(1) The Democratic Party rids itself of its reliance on financing by the uber-rich and large corporations, and thus frees itself to address the most pressing concerns of the middle class, the working class, and the poor.
(2) Republican efforts to suppress the vote are defeated.
(1) The Democratic Party rids itself of its reliance on financing by the uber-rich and large corporations, and thus frees itself to address the most pressing concerns of the middle class, the working class, and the poor.
(2) Republican efforts to suppress the vote are defeated.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Ohhh...so that's why? Okay, I feel better now. I thought it might have been because the Dems don't bring that much to the table...but what do I know?
What exactly are "the uber-rich" and "large corporations" doing to prevent Democrats in office from addressing "the most pressing concerns of the middle class, the working class. and the poor"?
And what do the terms "the uber-rich" and "large corporations" mean? Where are the lines between "the uber-rich" and just "the rich," and between "large corporations" and "medium-size corporations"?
Excellent question, I am so glad you asked.
When the idea of healthcare reform came up uber-rich insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies who donated to Democrats prevented them from legislatng an an effective universal system, they only just managed to pass the weak flawed compromises that is the ACA.
The NRA and gun manufacturers who donate to Democrats prevented them form instituting basic common sense gun laws which are supported by the vast majority of Americans.
Banks and financial institutions have prevented democrats from doing something about ridiculous university tuitions.
I could go on, but that should be enough for now.
The point is you need to get this big corporate and super pac money out of politics. If you do that politicians will be able to serve their constituents, rather than just serving their donors.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Sure would be interested in what you consider "...basic common sense gun laws...".
Taking the House for a spin is a nice feather in the cap. But I was skeptical of the idea it would be an overwhelming, "cant stop us now" performance. The Republican's hanging on to the Senate illustrates that the voters are still supporting them. Which is fine, that is what voting is for.
We will have to see. All eyes will be on the Democrats in the House now. So if they want to make a statement and demonstrate they are ready to bring more to the table, now is the time.
Thank you. This is nicely succinct.
Particularly with respect to the first 2 issues you raised here (universal health care and gun laws), regardless of what source of "funding" Democratic legislators would be "reliant upon," they will still have to compromise with other legislators who disagree with a bill or proposed bill.
I'm not sure that at the time the ACA was being voted on and enacted, a majority of Americans supported something like "Medicare for all". I'm not entirely sure the majority of Americans do now.
I'm also not sure offhand exactly what "commonsense gun laws" are supported by the vast majority of Americans. Can you be more specific about this?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
I will support the winners of our elections (without hysterics or emotional break-downs) even though I do not agree with their politics or personal outlooks. Having said this, I am afraid that the new House of Reps are going to eventually eat themselves trying to overthrow Trump instead of actually getting anything done.
This is my hesitation, too. I really want them to begin to talk about the platforms that their voters want. I didn't vote for them for an impeachment, sorry-not sorry. As a voter I am interested in social/welfare programs, renewable energy, an expanded NASA budget, climate studies, and a more robust budget for the Department of the Interior (I am a sucker for National Parks). I understand not everyone wants these things, and that's fine. Their vote counts the same as mine. But that was my motivation, not some sort of revenge scheme from 2016.
tytlyf
Not Religious
I'd call it a blue wave. Not a blue tsunami. You lost the house due to Donald.
But now it's Mueller Time.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Bring much to the table? You're not supposed to vote based on talk, you're supposed to vote on policy. The talk part is how conservatives end up with swampsters. Corporate policy isn't good for the middle class.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Oh, okay...
Yeah. Trump and the Republicans have plenty to worry about. There was a long-lived blue tsunami after the Nixon debacle, and I imagine Trump's crimes will make Nixon's crimes look like child's play.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
tytlyf
Not Religious
You vote based on feel good words and propaganda. Not on policy. Which is why conservatives tend to hate the republican establishment elitists.
It's more important to vote based on policy, not feel good words. Feel good words is how countries end up with a dictator.
Ohh I’m sure you are.
But for this purpose it is not about what I personally consider common sense gun laws (I would blow your mind), but what the majority of Americans consider common sense gun laws, like background checks for example.