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Xtians and the Commandments

Plato

Member
In reply to the original question, some food for thought....
The first Christians (the apostles) thought Jesus was the Jewish Messiah which they learned turned out to be the Messiah and Savior for the whole world. They next came to the realization that he was the 'Son' of God (there's the well known part in the Gospels when Peter realizes this while speaking with Jesus). They never thought he 'was' God.
Later Christians viewed Jesus as the Messiah, the Savior, the 'Christ' long promised and as the 'Son' of God, made of the same 'substance' (not counting his human body) as God, and as one being (as in entity) with God. They never said he was God himself.
People next always bring up and ask...Well how could Jesus be the 'son' of God and at the same time be one entity with God and be made of the same material as God? blah...blah....
This is not a problem unless you limit yourself to only human nature. People seem to want to think of God and Jesus as if they are 2 men, 2 guys, a guy and his son, but of course they're not even 'supposed' to be anything like that...but...are supposed to be...supernatural spirits....beings of pure energy, light, and spirit.
If they were such beings the whole father son, being the same but being different, being apart but being one gets really easy to understand......

A good analogy to understand such spirit/ energy beings would be a fire in a fireplace (it's a thing of energy and light). Such a fire is pretty big, burns at a certain temperature from a certain substance has certain charicteristics....Insert a stick into it and light it's end. Now you have a little fire and big fire. You could say the little fire is the 'son' of the big fire. It came from the big fire. From the same material has the same charicteristics but is seperate and independent. You can walk around with the little fire, move it away from the big fire but it's still the son of that fire and still in a real way the 'same' fire. Put the stick back in the fireplace and the little flame goes back into it's father and becomes one and same with it again, indistinguishable.
Such a energy/light spirit being (God) if he existed could divide himself into a thousand 'sons' or a million, be the same as all of them. They would be the same but independent seperate and apart. They could talk to each other, take orders from each other, rebel one against the other and still be all the same entity which they must all return into as 'one'.
As I understand it this is how main stream Christianity sees God, Jesus and their relationship. So no 'Commandment' is broken if they worship Jesus and God. For them like the Muslims....there is only one God...they just don't limit God to a human type entity.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I do not believe there is any evidence that the early Christians worshipped Jesus.
After the concept of the Trinity was established it could be argued either way.

I am coming to the opinion that Jesus is not and never has been God in any form.
He is simply Jesus Son of God.

The details of and ramifications of this status are not known.
Whilst the ten commandments are accepted by Christians , one would suppose that the Unitarian view of Jesus would be more easily substantiated.

Nevertheless the trinitarian belief is dominant today.
 
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