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YHVH a Son of the Gods

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Psalms 89:6 For who in the Heavens can be compared to YHVH? Who among the sons of Elim (Gods) is like YHVH.

Psalm 89:6 Hebrew Text Analysis

Psalms 29:1 A Psalm by David. Ascribe to YHVH, you sons of Elim (Gods), ascribe to YHVH glory and strength.

Psalm 29:1 Hebrew Text Analysis

In my opinion. :innocent:

Not sure what the discussion is here? But Elohiym can mean chosen people, judges, mighty, kings, warriors, etc.

There is a connection with a mighty oak. Interesting!

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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Not sure what the discussion is here?
The discussion is that these ideas exist within the texts, and what was David's theological understanding.
But Elohiym can mean chosen people, judges, mighty, kings, warriors, etc.
Tho it is H410 (El) pluralized, not H430 (Elohim)... This can be translated a son of the Gods, which is referenced throughout the Tanakh.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
I would say Christian biblical texts and its ideas regarding Yahweh are skewed. The Jews and Christians both fashioned their 'Almighty' God after an ancient pre-Islamic Arabian (3000 BC) deity.

Yahwah (also known as Yaw) is a north Arabian rain god who was worshiped by the Semitic tribes who lived near the Gulf of Aqaba. The worship of this god is believed to have originated with the Midianite, Hebrew, Moabite and Edomite tribes of southern Jordan and Palestine. To the Hebrew tribes of ancient Palestine, their deity Yahweh was a major tribal god and his cult became the religion of Judaism although his worship was common to many Semitic peoples. His sacred animal was the dove and to the Midianite and Edomite tribes he considered to be the husband of the fertility goddess Ashira. The god was also known as Ea to the Babylonians, Yahu to the Aramaeans the and Yah to the Egyptians.

In the oldest biblical literature, Yahweh is a typical ancient Near Eastern "divine warrior", who leads the heavenly army against Israel's enemies; he later became the main god of the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) and of Judah, and over time the royal court and temple promoted Yahweh as the god of the entire cosmos, possessing all the positive qualities previously attributed to the other gods and goddesses. By the end of the Babylonian exile (6th century BCE), the very existence of foreign gods was denied, and Yahweh was proclaimed as the creator of the cosmos and the true god of all the world.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
In my mind...I can't accept the fact that `gods` even exist,
and having sons ? Where's the semen, and the intercourse.
Out of context, I suppose, a sentence from Matthew,
scratching in the sand...really ?
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
The discussion is that these ideas exist within the texts, and what was David's theological understanding.

Tho it is H410 (El) pluralized, not H430 (Elohim)... This can be translated a son of the Gods, which is referenced throughout the Tanakh.

In my opinion. :innocent:

The Jewish translation says -

Psalm 89:7 For who in the heavens is equal to the Lord? [Who] resembles the Lord among the sons of the mighty?

Psalm 29:1 A song of David. Prepare for the Lord, [you] sons of the mighty; prepare for the Lord glory and might.

David was called a son of the mighty.

Personally, I think "heavens" should be translated "firmament" or better - "dust", - for clarity in 89:7.

Psalm 89:7 For who in the firmament/dust/matter/corporeal/ is equal to the Lord? [Who] resembles the Lord among the sons of the mighty?

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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Sense I was a little boy, listening to Grandma's tales of Jesus and `God` and such,
`God` wrote ten verses and Jesus wrote none, except for scratches in the sand, once.
What we have heard are the apostle's words, and some plagiarisms of what Jesus supposedly said.
Maybe Saul misquoted all of that, you think ?
 
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