Yogi 'Survives Without Food' For 70 Years

[Ben Dhyan]

Seems there is more to reality than merely human conceptualization generally believes. Now while this particular case is still under investigation, unless there is a massive scam involving lots of organizations and people over a long period of time, this could really be an example of the siddhis.

Man 'Survives Without Food' For 70 Years - Yahoo! News UK

Man 'Survives Without Food' For 70 Years

Thursday, April 29 10:15 am

Indian doctors are studying a remarkable 83-year-old holy man who claims to have spent the last seven decades without food and water. Skip related content

The long-haired and bearded yogi is under 24-hour observation by a team of 30 doctors during three weeks of tests at a hospital in the western city of Ahmedabad.

Two cameras have been set up in his room, while a mobile camera films him when he goes outside, guaranteeing round-the-clock observation.

His body will be scanned and his brain and heart activity measured with electrodes.

"The observation from this study may throw light on human survival without food and water," said Dr G. Ilavazahagan, who is directing the research.

"This may help in working out strategies for survival during natural calamities, extreme stressful conditions and extra-terrestrial explorations like future missions to the Moon and Mars by the human race."

Since the experiment began on April 22, Jani has neither eaten nor drunk and has not been to the toilet.

"The exercise of taking this yogi under the medical scanner is to understand what energy supports his existence," Dr Ilavazahagan added.

Here is another article on him from the BBC in 2003, apparently he has allowed medical researchers to test him before.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Fasting fakir flummoxes physicians

By Rajeev Khanna BBC correspondent in Ahmedabad

25 November, 2003

Doctors and experts are baffled by an Indian hermit who claims not to have eaten or drunk anything for several decades - but is still in perfect health.

Mr Prahlad Jani under surveillance in hospital
Prahlad Jani, a holy man, or fakir, who is over 70 years old, has just spent 10 days under constant observation in Sterling Hospital, in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad.

During that time, he did not consume anything and "neither did he pass urine or stool", according to the hospital's deputy superintendent, Dr Dinesh Desai.

Yet he is in fine mental and physical fettle, say doctors.

Most people can live without food for several weeks, with the body drawing on its fat and protein stores. But the average human can survive for only three to four days without water.

Followers of Indian holy men and ascetics have often ascribed extraordinary powers to them, but such powers are seldom subject to scientific inspection.

 

[*Anne*]

This is funky!

 

[Madhuri]

I want to know the results. I hope the information is released soon.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

There are many of this type storys going around. I can tell you that there are lots of half naked sadhu's living very high in the Himalayan mountains. You would think that they would just die from the cold.

 

[Riverwolf]

'Bout time somebody actually tried to do some studies into the powers of Sages. It'd be great to know exactly what's going on.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I smell a hoax.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Seventy years does raise some doubt, but the mind is indeed a very powerful tool. It will be interesting to investigate this further.

 

[Nepenthe]

I smell a hoax.

Smell it! I can taste, see and hear the hoax!

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I smell a hoax.

In theory I accept that what this Yogi is claiming is possible, after all there is an implication of the underlying unity of energy and matter in Einstein's famous E=MC^2 in that it equally followsM=E/c^2. Einstein is quoted as having said, "Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter."

However in practice, since the Yogi requires to be in 'union' (harmony) with his environment in order for the most effective exchange of energy (or any other siddhi for that matter), there is a vast difference in being able to manifest such siddhis in a cave somewhere in the natural wilderness, and manifesting the same result in the midst of a psychically hostile environment generated both by any skeptical/disbelieving human researchers present and the general discordant backgorund vibrations present in a densely populated human society. (BTW, IMHO that is why a genuine 'sensitive' may experience difficulty to replicate certain feats in the presence of say someone like James Randi, for he is able to generate psychic interference vibrations that disturb the background of the local environment. I don't mean to imply that he (Randi) is even aware of it, it is just that skeptic's vibrations are out of phase with the those vibrations conducive to the efficacy of the attempted accomplishment.)

If the Yogi can exhibit even a limited degree of success under research conditions in a metropolitan hospital, then his credibility in terms of exhibiting greater anomalies in his cave environment is high IMHO.

The world is psychic through and through and psycological warfare is not merely taking place in the conceptual reality that mankind is conscious of, but is omnipresent. All vibrations, whether it falls in the conceptual domain of sound, light, energy, mind, spirit, or whatever, they are always subject to the same rules, i.e. that frequencies that are nearest being in phase will add and those out of phase will subtract. This understanding is the basis of all 'magic', both of the white and the black, for it an underlying principle of the nature of the cosmos.

But so far as soldiers being able to be in a state of meditation in the midst of the psychic holographic interference field of a war environment,... well good luck with that, even Arjuna had trouble there and Krishna saved the day.

 

[Renji]

A human being can only last 40-45 days without eating food and 1 week (or less) without drinking water or any drinks.

 

[sonofskeptish]

Bs!!!

 

[Madhuri]

Oh, I love how full of bias this thread is!

 

[Satsangi]

Sterling is a modern, hi-tech reputed hospital from what I have heard and I would believe their findings. But, I disagree with ben-d that an accomplished Yogi needs a "conducive environment" to exhibit Siddhis. An accomplished Yogi's Siddhis come from the the Energy which is the basis of both "hostile" and "friendly" energies.

Regards,

 

[Nepenthe]

Sterling is a modern, hi-tech reputed hospital from what I have heard and I would believe their findings. But, I disagree with ben-d that an accomplished Yogi needs a "conducive environment" to exhibit Siddhis. An accomplished Yogi's Siddhis come from the the Energy which is the basis of both "hostile" and "friendly" energies.

Regards,

The hospital is modern, but that's not particularly relevant when it comes to a dedicated hoax. From what little info' is available the hospital's protocol sounds ridiculously open to fraud. In the article in the OP alone it says that:

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"The long-haired and bearded yogi is under 24-hour observation by a team of 30 doctors during three weeks of tests at a hospital in the western city of Ahmedabad."
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But then adds this intriguing bit of info':

"Two cameras have been set up in his room, while a mobile camera films him when he goes outside, guaranteeing round-the-clock observation."

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"Mobile camera"? Does someone follow him when he "goes outside"? Where outside? Like every other Breatharian claim this is so open to fraud as more details come in even if there's evidence his metabolism is remarkable I'm confident the hoax hypothesis will be further confirmed just like it has with other Breatharians like:

Ellen Greve whose scientific study was aborted due to her failing health.
Wiley Brooks (who "breaks his fasts with "cheeseburgers and soda").
...and Hira Ratan Manek who was investigated by a medical team under far too lax conditions- not unlike Jani's situation from what I can gather.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

But, I disagree with ben-d that an accomplished Yogi needs a "conducive environment" to exhibit Siddhis. An accomplished Yogi's Siddhis come from the the Energy which is the basis of both "hostile" and "friendly" energies.

Regards,

Depends on the purpose the Siddhi is being manifested, if it is merely to try and show mere mortal skeptics that it is possible, it is doubtful that the 'higher source' would be involved, but definitely if the Yogi's test has to do with the larger divine purpose of these times, then yes,..agreed.

As implied before, the only difference between white and black 'magic' is purpose, the essential principle underlying them is one and the same, but the black has an element of self interest including pride, whereas the white is selfless and serves the greater whole.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Bs!!!

This sophisticated response is the sure sign of a towering intellect,...awesome!!!:bow:

 

[YmirGF]

This sophisticated response is the sure sign of a towering intellect,...awesome!!!:bow:

Your point aside, I am neither impressed or moved by these claims. Pablum for the masses who must believe in something.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Your point aside, I am neither impressed or moved by these claims. Pablum for the masses who must believe in something.

There may very well be considerable media hype and exaggeration involved, particularly when one sees that the horrid BBC was involved in this story previously, but that would not in any way disprove Siddhis as having reality in the greater scheme of things, nor would it disprove that this particular Yogi does manifest certain Siddhis that the normal person could not realize.

Still, it is easy and common for the media to build a strawman only to set it on fire later. To exaggerate the claim to a point of impossibility makes it possible to prove he is a fake when he fails to deliver.

Yes, it is another day and another news story to be generated to feed the masses, pabulum indeed.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

However in practice, since the Yogi requires to be in 'union' (harmony) with his environment in order for the most effective exchange of energy (or any other siddhi for that matter)...

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[zenzero]

Friends,

This is already been shown on TV in India: Hoax, or Stunt, Black Magic etc. impressed or unimpressed, makes no difference to TRUTH, which in any case is there for which only the seer is required.

However, it is a fact that there is a yogic mudra where by yogis meditate as their bodies hibernate for months and the same had posted earlier in some thread.

Since personally am not adept nor seen anyone from close quarters, leave it at that.

Love & rgds