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You are wrong!

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I don't believe a lot of things that would make me feel good if I believed them. Why? Because I don't find them logical. So, no that's not it.

Everyone has their own reasons for belief and that's okay. The idea of reincarnation comforts me, but I have no idea if it's really true or not. No one does. If there was an objective reality to it, it wouldn't be a belief anymore.
 
Have you accepted that your beliefs are inaccurate?!
That is the first step in learning.
I was a Baptist Republican when I was 16. I was right for sure in my head. Then one day I pondered "what if I'm wrong?".
That path first led me to become a Libertarian (thanks Rand Paul. You older folk had the OG Ron Paul converting conservatives)
As a Libertarian minarchist I was sure I was right on the money. There's a joke though "What's the difference between a minarchist and an anarchist? About six months"
Before the year was up, I found myself a rabid anarchist. Now, my OP says I could be wrong in this belief i.e. anarchism is the only moral societal system. But I don't think I'm wrong. I arrived at this conclusion by accepting I could be wrong. And the more study I do, the more I am assured in my anarchist philosophy.
So statists, perhaps you are wrong about the legitimacy of government! Ever think of that? Or maybe I'm wrong.
I was a Bible literalist when I joined these forums. I was sure I wasn't wrong at all, but then I allowed myself to accept once again that I could be wrong. Now I am unsure about any God.
Christians, have you accepted that perhaps there is no Christ? Wait, doubt isn't allowed, right?
You are wrong, everybody! Me too, I'm part of every body. I got strange beliefs, surely they aren't all right. Plus they are always evolving, so how could they be right in the first place?
Found wifi ;^) back to pestering you guys
 
You are the one who is wrong.
First. You betray the founders who acknowledged the GOD OF OUR FATHERS. as benefactor, creator, and preserver of the republic
To betray the church was to betray the state. and constitutionally remains so today
All founders only allowed Christian's to hold the vote. Please respond. Larry R Camp
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
I am highly certain that I am wrong about at least some of the things that I believe, but all I can do is form my beliefs in proportion to the evidence and correct my ignorance or misinformation in the face of new data.

So I try to believe whatever is most likely to be true, but I am aware that I might be wrong. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference as far as living my life is concerned, for the most part, since it only comes up when I'm wrong and I do my best to not be wrong.

I have converted from monotheism to polytheism to ditheism to pantheism to atheism, along with a variety of religions and beliefs in between, so I think that shows that I really mean it when I say I'm willing to change my mind. Something tells me that the atheism is going to stick until my death, though.

As for politics, I'm a Social Libertarian or a "Left-Libertarian." The anarchists I know tend to advocate for nearly identical policies in practice, but I'm just not sure I'd go as far as they do. I don't really have opinions on the specific topics of minarchism or market socialism because, quite honestly, I don't really see why I should care about those sorts of nuances when America is so far AuthRight that universal healthcare is considered an extremist talking point. Maybe we can work out those differences when they become a bit more relevant.
 
I am highly certain that I am wrong about at least some of the things that I believe, but all I can do is form my beliefs in proportion to the evidence and correct my ignorance or misinformation in the face of new data.

So I try to believe whatever is most likely to be true, but I am aware that I might be wrong. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference as far as living my life is concerned, for the most part, since it only comes up when I'm wrong and I do my best to not be wrong.

I have converted from monotheism to polytheism to ditheism to pantheism to atheism, along with a variety of religions and beliefs in between, so I think that shows that I really mean it when I say I'm willing to change my mind. Something tells me that the atheism is going to stick until my death, though.

As for politics, I'm a Social Libertarian or a "Left-Libertarian." The anarchists I know tend to advocate for nearly identical policies in practice, but I'm just not sure I'd go as far as they do. I don't really have opinions on the specific topics of minarchism or market socialism because, quite honestly, I don't really see why I should care about those sorts of nuances when America is so far AuthRight that universal healthcare is considered an extremist talking point. Maybe we can work out those differences when they become a bit more relevant.
Both I and the founding fathers are correct. Even in 1954, D.D. Eisenhower stated that the republic was designed to be a Christian nation. People may not understand or see the truth, but anyone who studies the Revolutionary war has to see the hand of God. Freedom was almost lost dozens of times, when weather suddenly changed to save the colonial army, ACCIDENT, I think not 27 times in 7 years.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Have you accepted that your beliefs are inaccurate?!
That is the first step in learning.
I was a Baptist Republican when I was 16. I was right for sure in my head. Then one day I pondered "what if I'm wrong?".
That path first led me to become a Libertarian (thanks Rand Paul. You older folk had the OG Ron Paul converting conservatives)
As a Libertarian minarchist I was sure I was right on the money. There's a joke though "What's the difference between a minarchist and an anarchist? About six months"
Before the year was up, I found myself a rabid anarchist. Now, my OP says I could be wrong in this belief i.e. anarchism is the only moral societal system. But I don't think I'm wrong. I arrived at this conclusion by accepting I could be wrong. And the more study I do, the more I am assured in my anarchist philosophy.
So statists, perhaps you are wrong about the legitimacy of government! Ever think of that? Or maybe I'm wrong.
I was a Bible literalist when I joined these forums. I was sure I wasn't wrong at all, but then I allowed myself to accept once again that I could be wrong. Now I am unsure about any God.
Christians, have you accepted that perhaps there is no Christ? Wait, doubt isn't allowed, right?
You are wrong, everybody! Me too, I'm part of every body. I got strange beliefs, surely they aren't all right. Plus they are always evolving, so how could they be right in the first place?
Found wifi ;^) back to pestering you guys

You brought in an interesting subject. Statism.

Nevermind that, see your queries are valid in certain ways. But you must know that you cannot just throw out so many things just out of curiosity, ask the question and answer it yourself like that. E.g. Did Christ exist? Well, why do you word it Christ? What does Christ mean? Was it not Jesus the son of Joseph the hand-worker? Your question first should be if Jesus existed. Christ or not is a secondary question.
 
JESUS, THE EVERLIVING CHRIST, is the same past, now, and forever. WHen a post is tangible physical proof, it needs to make no apology. Only human reason is questionable.
BTW did you know that Madison offered to introduce the first amendment into congress to stop a Baptist minister from running against him on 1788?
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
Have you accepted that your beliefs are inaccurate?!
That is the first step in learning.
I was a Baptist Republican when I was 16. I was right for sure in my head. Then one day I pondered "what if I'm wrong?".
That path first led me to become a Libertarian (thanks Rand Paul. You older folk had the OG Ron Paul converting conservatives)
As a Libertarian minarchist I was sure I was right on the money. There's a joke though "What's the difference between a minarchist and an anarchist? About six months"
Before the year was up, I found myself a rabid anarchist. Now, my OP says I could be wrong in this belief i.e. anarchism is the only moral societal system. But I don't think I'm wrong. I arrived at this conclusion by accepting I could be wrong. And the more study I do, the more I am assured in my anarchist philosophy.
So statists, perhaps you are wrong about the legitimacy of government! Ever think of that? Or maybe I'm wrong.
I was a Bible literalist when I joined these forums. I was sure I wasn't wrong at all, but then I allowed myself to accept once again that I could be wrong. Now I am unsure about any God.
Christians, have you accepted that perhaps there is no Christ? Wait, doubt isn't allowed, right?
You are wrong, everybody! Me too, I'm part of every body. I got strange beliefs, surely they aren't all right. Plus they are always evolving, so how could they be right in the first place?
Found wifi ;^) back to pestering you guys

Xavier Graham Good to meet you.... You believe the sun will rise in the morning in the east! You believe water will float when a solid! You have beliefs and faith!

The scriptures tell you; Jesus rose from the dead because sin had no hold on him.. "The wages of sin is death"! People have always believed in gods right from the cave man! God is spirit!
Millions of people believe in ghosts many have seen ghosts! They are spirits!

Pigs, Cows, Chickens, Dogs etc do NOT believe in god! You lower yourself to their level! The Christian is a Christ follower. Christians believe Jesus IS God!
Xavier Graham The Anti-Christ is anti-Christian because Christians have the truth! Satan lies! The Anti-Christ would never ever allow a Cross on any of his churches he would not allow his followers to make the sign of the cross. It was by the Cross that Jesus destroyed death and restored life!
There is a spiritual war going on around you and you are on the wrong side!
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
It's preferable to live without any beliefs.

Beliefs to me are at best, wishful thinking.

Well all claims are the affirmation of a belief, you expressed two beliefs in that post. Unless you mean better to live without a specific type, like unevidenced subjective beliefs for example?
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
When something is confirmed, there is no requirement of belief needed anymore.

Are you sure, this seems wrong to me. We stop believing something is true when it is "confirmed"? I'd say the opposite was true, when something is sufficiently well supported by objective evidence I believe it. I disbelieve it until then, and would go back to disbelieving it if new evidence made it necessary.

I consider all beliefs I hold, even irrefutable facts, to be tentative and open to revision in the light of new evidence. Likewise I would unhesitatingly change my position on things I disbelieve, if sufficient objective evidence demanded this.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Only nothing is really a fact if you really think about it.
There's just various degrees of certainty that something is right.

Knowledge that something is true makes it a fact, a good test would be to communicate the knowledge, and see if it is objectively testable and produces the same result universally.
 
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