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You can not prove that God does not exist!!

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Willamena

Willamena

Just me
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Random said:
Since atheists began treating it with evangelical and religious fervour and piety, and based their thinking on a belief that is insupportable (ie. "God does not exist").
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Heh. Not to mention basing arguments on tearing down the opponent's position.
 
logician

logician

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"that is insupportable (ie. "God does not exist").

God does not exist is not insupportable, god does exist is.
 
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Rioku

Wanabe *********
YmirGF said:
Oy vey. Ok, I am getting rather bored with your trifles. Let's say you just ignore the other posters for a bit and simply outline you esteemed opinions, m'kay.

*lobs the football to Rioku*

"Run, Frodo! RUN!"
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Your contributions to this thread are so very helpful, thank you for your well thought out points. If people want to debate another topic they can simply start another thread, and if they want to hear my ideas on the topic they can message me. But I guess you must be inexperience with how quickly one person can change the topic of a thread.
 
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Rioku

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Willamena said:
So, you are one who accepts things as true or real without "proof"?
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Annoyingly I and apologetically I respond to this. You are trying to say that because I say there is no god then I take things as true without evidence. Now given my statement that god does not exist then I can see why you would think that. So for you I will give an explanation. I do accept that there is a chance a god exists. ( I will not get into explaining the semantics of what I mean by god in this context). However there is an equal chance for an infinite amount of other events, gods and unimaginable things to exist. Also, if you take all concepts of god for every religion, and every personal belief of god, hence there can be over 7 billion ideas of god, the combined chance that any of them exist is still infinitely small. So rather then explaining that in every statement I just say God does not exist. In the future I will try and say something like the chance of god existing is insignificant.
 
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Rioku

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9-10ths_Penguin said:
Why can't you allow for God to be misquoted? Any message He may have given humanity has been filtered through imperfect humans?

It strikes me as odd when atheists take a more literal, fundamentalist stance on the scriptures of a religion than that of even its most extreme believers.

In any case, there are plenty of religious beliefs that don't fit the Abrahamic model of an omnipotent/omniscient/omnibenevolent single god. Plenty of religions believe in gods that are either not omnipotent and/or omniscient, or are not always perfectly benevolent.

You may be able to make a case against "every-word-in-the-Bible-is-literally-true" fundamentalist Christianity; the problem is that this doesn't describe the beliefs of most religious people... heck, it doesn't even describe the beliefs of most Christians.
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Can a mod split this out to another thread so we can talk about it there??
 
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Rioku

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Jay said:
It will be fun watching you try to substantiate that. Pedantry should be made of sturdier stuff ... :yes:
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I agree with you it would be funny, because you either understand it or you don't. And if you don't the only way to substantiate it would be to sit down for the rest of my life and write down things that you can not prove. There might be another way to explain it but I have never needed to before, because most people just understand.
 
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Rioku

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Jay said:
Oh, I see - sort of like the theist understands God. You're really not too good at this, Rioku ... :no:
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Fine, imagine there was a pot in space, I think you like pots. This pot also known as the celestial pot, and it uses supernatural powers to it's location to avoid detection, so it can never be detected. So that is an example of something that can not be proven it does not exist. Now, imagine I created a loop that gave the pot a color, lets say green. So no we have a green celestial pot. There is a second example of something that can not be proven it does not exist. So now I add green to the pot again so it is now the green green celestial pot. The name is the only thing that changes but it is still a different pot so now we have three unprovable objects. So if I make a loop that infinitely adds the name green to the front of the existing name then we have an infinite number of pots that can not be proven, and each one has an equal chance of existing as any god.

I hope this is simple enough for you to understand. But I do have to admit you have a skill of adding nothing useful to the topic and getting me to waist my time explaining it to you. In the future if you would please start another topic and invite me to respond then I would be more then happy to. At this point the original mission of this thread is complete in a sense, unless there are still people who think that they can prove god does not exist or if there are people who think it is a valid argument.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
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**MOD POST**

Debate each other's views all you want, but do not attack each other.
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Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Rioku said:
Annoyingly I and apologetically I respond to this. You are trying to say that because I say there is no god then I take things as true without evidence. Now given my statement that god does not exist then I can see why you would think that. So for you I will give an explanation. I do accept that there is a chance a god exists. ( I will not get into explaining the semantics of what I mean by god in this context). However there is an equal chance for an infinite amount of other events, gods and unimaginable things to exist. Also, if you take all concepts of god for every religion, and every personal belief of god, hence there can be over 7 billion ideas of god, the combined chance that any of them exist is still infinitely small. So rather then explaining that in every statement I just say God does not exist. In the future I will try and say something like the chance of god existing is insignificant.
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...or how about just "I don't know if God exists"? :)
 
frg001

frg001

Complex bunch of atoms
Rioku said:
But I do have to admit you have a skill of adding nothing useful to the topic and getting me to waist my time explaining it to you.
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Strange that - I noticed the same thing. It's like a yappy terrier that belongs to someone else and makes a mess on your grass, destroys your flowers and bites your ankles. Annoying and unnecessary.
 
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