Young and questioning

[BSM1]

Thank you for demonstrating that you have confirmation bias.

I am saying that facts are near- certian observations of truth that are subject to change. The truth however is unchanging.

For example, it was a fact that the atom could not be split but it was not the truth.

I'm sorry, but you are totally backwards in your assumption. At one time it was the truth that an atom could not be split. However, the fact was that an atom could be split; so now the truth is an atom can be split.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

I'm sorry, but you are totally backwards in your assumption. At one time it was the truth that an atom could not be split. However, the fact was that an atom could be split; so now the truth is an atom can be split.

Basically your flipping the definitions of truth and fact so that you can say that truth is relativistic when you do want to use the term truth like it is truth.

 

[BSM1]

Basically your flipping the definitions of truth and fact so that you can say that truth is relativistic when you do want to use the term truth like it is truth.

Again I am not trying to be contentious but you atom example completely makes my case. It was never a fact that the atom could not be split, it was only the prevailing truth. When the atom was split (fact) then the prevailing truth changed; i.e, the atom most definitely could be split. Truth is relative to facts. As facts become known, truth changes.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Again I am not trying to be contentious but you atom example completely makes my case. It was never a fact that the atom could not be split, it was only the prevailing truth. When the atom was split (fact) then the prevailing truth changed; i.e, the atom most definitely could be split. Truth is relative to facts. As facts become known, truth changes.

Required reading:

Truth (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Facts (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[SabahTheLoner]

I couldn't think in another title I'm sorry.

So I was born and raised in a Seventh-Day Adventist home. Every saturday me, my sister and parents went to church. I never was one of thoses who was activiely participating on church's activities and even avoided contact with the church's youth prefering sitting on the banch waiting for the actual worship service. I was batizep (even though this was more to please my dad than for my actual beliefs. And I regret it doing it in such young age I was like 13~15) and everything was "fine" before I started questioning What I was doing there? What was my faith? Why I felt so distant from God? Why when we have a problems we pray looking for Jesus than God? If christianity started with Judaism why Christianity and not Judaism? You know just sit there and accept everythign they told you? I was like that.

My dad used to fight in the Chrurch because of the Trinity. He doesn't believe in the trinity the way as it is.
i don't know something felt off to me. This unsettle feeling sticked with me for a while until this year where it becomes unberable and I started to spiritually suffer. So I started to do my research.

I started with Islam. Always find mysterious and scary due the lack the information that it's given to us by the media and how they always portrait it as a violence and brutality religion and its pratictioners. after read a couple articles I quite liked to a couple of points in islam and the way that it's you and God appealing me. I still hold a few question What heaven is like to them and all this Huris? A clearly response about sharia? Could I get a proper study about it on a Mosque?

I'm really curious about Judaism too. I didn't read much about Judaism, seems that there's a lot of movements and I don't really know where to start. I download the Tora and I intent to read it soon the same as for Quran. So i can't tell much. But seems like Judaism is mor lined with the same beliefs that I've been taught.

I'm open minded to look for my faith, to look for being closer to God. I just want to this feeling of loneliness go away.

Hello. I totally understand this sort of questioning. This happened to me at a much younger age but I still asked very similar questions nonetheless.

My grandparents were usually the ones convincing me I was Christian, but my parents encouraged me to be around Christians growing up. I blindly accepted God without questioning why. I wanted to join Islam at one point as well, but eventually I found that I don't actually believe in God. I was irreligious for a number of years after that until I found that I actually wanted religion, and so to my surprise I found an atheistic one that I agreed with. It was a very happy moment in my life.

Religion will take work to discover, and it will take a lot of questioning. Reading texts on religions and scriptures is a good start. It is okay to question beliefs. What you don't leave behind will make you stronger in one way or another.

 

[arthra]

I still hold a few question What heaven is like to them and all this Huris? A clearly response about sharia? Could I get a proper study about it on a Mosque?

Can't answer for Muslims here but as a Baha'i we simply define "heaven" as nearness to God and the term "huris" has been ex[plained by Baha'is as follows:

Bahá'u'lláh's houri, the bearer to Him of the Revelation, who represents the feminine aspect of the divine

(Provisional Translations, Notes (Ode to the Dove) )

So for us Baha'is a "houri" is the feminine aspect of the Divine ... The Maid of Heaven is another appellation. A houri is not a sensual representation but rather a powerful spiritual representation:

There arose the houri, Who had dwelt in pre-eternity in the pavilions of holiness, protection, and glorification and in the canopies of sinlessness, greatness and splendor. Upon Her creamy brow the most high pen hath written in crimson ink, "Praise be to God! This is a houri upon Whom none have gazed save God, the exalted, the most high. God hath purified the hem of Her purity from the knowledge of the concourse of names in the realm of eternity, and Her face from the view of all who are in the kingdom of creation. When She arose with the ornament of God from Her palace, She looked with one glance toward the sky. The people of the heavens swooned at the rays of Her visage and at the wafting of Her perfume. Then She looked with another glance toward the earth, and it was illumined by the lights of Her beauty and the loveliness of Her splendor.

(Lawh-i-Húríyyih, Tablet of the Maiden - Cole)

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Questioning and disbelief are the nature of man.
They are the elements that lead is to greater understanding of every thing, including our belief in God.
A religion that feed us "Truths" that we must not question, and that is not strong enough to allow us to scrutinise in detail its beliefs .It knows that its errors will be found out if they are questioned.

 

[osgart]

avoid indoctrination, and find what fosters your freedom. inquisition and study is best before joining a group.