Your beliefs of Afterlife?

[Prestor John]

Since i am a (strong) atheist, it is not the case that I do not wish to be with God, since I do believe that there is not such a thing as God. It would be like me not wishing to be in the presence of Mickey Mouse, which is absurd.

So, do I have a chance?

Ciao

- viole

A chance for what?

 

[viole]

A chance for what?

A chance of getting saved. Or whatever blissful you might believe in.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Prestor John]

A chance of getting saved. Or whatever blissful you might believe in.

Ciao

- viole

The Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ is universal in its effects.

If you refuse to accept the Lord and repent of your sins in this life there will be a time set aside after your death when you will suffer for the consequences of your own sins. After the penalties have been paid you will be forgiven and be received into the kingdom where you will be most comfortable.

You will most likely not dwell with the Father or the Son, but you will be free of sin and death and you will receive as much joy as you are able to bear.

 

[viole]

The suffering and sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ is universal in its effects.

What sacrifice? Taking the Passover weekend off?

If you refuse to accept the Lord and repent of your sins in this life there is a time set aside after your death when you will suffer for the consequences of your own sins then after the price is paid you will be forgiven and be received into the kingdom that you will be most comfortable.

Cool. Will that period of suffering take longer than a weekend?

You will most likely not dwell with the Father or the Son, but you will be free of sin and death and have joy.

You never know. We might become best friends. Are they mathematicians, too?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Prestor John]

What sacrifice? Taking the Passover weekend off?

I would limit my example to the suffering of all the sins of Mankind in the Garden of Gethsemane and upon the cross and His mortal death.

In truth, the Atonement of the Lord covers much more than that, but I think that that is the most appropriate focus for this conversation.

Cool. Will that period of suffering take longer than a weekend?

I am not entirely sure, but I am inclined to believe that it varies according to the person.

David mentioned in Psalms that the Lord would not leave him in Hell forever. In modern-day revelation the Lord confirmed that David would spend some time in Hell and that he would eventually be released following the Lord's millennial reign upon the Earth.

I am not trying to compare David's sins to your own. His were very grave(adultery and murder), so I assume that you would be received sometime before or during the millennial reign.

You never know. We might become best friends. Are they mathematicians, too?

You are entirely right. We don't have all the details. It is not an exact science (like mathematics).

The Prophet Joseph Smith had a vision of the Celestial Kingdom of God and claimed that he saw his older brother Alvin there. Alvin had died years before the Restoration of the Gospel. Joseph inquired how his brother could have been there since he had not received the Lord in His fullness nor been baptized.

He was told that the Lord looks on the heart of Man and that He can judge if a person would have accepted the fullness of the Lord if given the chance.

So, it is entirely possible that you and I will become best friends. Although, even if we are received into different kingdoms, there would be nothing stopping us from being friends.

Who are you asking are mathematicians?

 

[RandomFlashbacks]

Religion is created by man.
Many religions have their prophet in which they show you how to live life to be the best person you can be and experience service to others here on earth.
I personally abide by Jesus but don't judge how others live and whom they worship. Once you pass, your soul lives on and there is no right or wrong way to get there, it's about how you love and treated yourself and other's here on earth.

Hence, I totally believe in the afterlife. In my youth, my mother scared us by saying, “wait until I die, I will come back and pinch you in the butt”.

The first to pass in my immediate family was my brother and after the funeral, I questioned if he was going to come back and pinch all of us.
Two weeks later, we all had the same experience, we felt the pinch. Afterwards he visited me in my dreams and showed me where he was.
I’ve never felt so much magnetic love and peace and while he was giving me the tour, the scenery and beauty was out of this world.
Words can’t describe what I saw and felt.

Unfortunately, we have the opposite reside within as well; if love and light lives then there is darkness.
Some that live in the negative will stay earth-bound until they have come to peace with what has ailed them so it's best to resolve all issues and practice kindness.
I have also experienced darkness, my latest blog tells a story about a 5th-dimensional creature.

http://myrandomflashbacks.com/

 

[Whiterain]

It's all been said.. It's all to quickly become mind numbing...

People as a collective are stupid, individually even more agonizing to decipher...

Micromanaging is not key here.. The general message is to be "pure" and "good" people...

Bah.. Bah people say... We have the cognitive functions to be different.. Regardless of the facts of nature....

However... Man has the Power to be different... No one can differentiate the ignorance alone...

The fact are built into us human beings... Just telling you to be Right isn't all bellicose.


Killing and all... Laws provide order... However they go abused...

I just chock it up to idiocy.. Just be intelligent.

Man has the power to be different.

Expect nothing from God.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'll find out when I get there, in regards to the OP.

 

[`mud]

A drink to the transparency of all beliefs,
I can see the Cosmos still,
no beliefs needed.
~
'mud

 

[EmperorSwordMan]

I'm not fully sure what to believe in myself, just started being opened to religious ideas and spirituality a few days ago after I've been a atheist for a entire year. I'm thinking after death our souls leave the body and go to a entirely new realm of existence where the old laws of time and reality doesn't apply, probably somewhere where we'd be happy. I guess you can say I believe some form of heaven, without the idea of hell.

 

[`mud]

Good fortune on your way to heaven,
take a break there,
while seeking Nirvana.
~
and then...........................grow up !
~
'mud

 

[Prestor John]

I'm not fully sure what to believe in myself, just started being opened to religious ideas and spirituality a few days ago after I've been a atheist for a entire year. I'm thinking after death our souls leave the body and go to a entirely new realm of existence where the old laws of time and reality doesn't apply, probably somewhere where we'd be happy. I guess you can say I believe some form of heaven, without the idea of hell.

My views are very similar.

 

[SalixIncendium]

In my view, when the body dies, the mind dies along with it. Whatever powers the body (life energy, prana, qi, soul, spirit, or whatever you wish to call it) though the law of the conservation of energy continues on in whatever form the divine determines. Memories are not attached to this energy, as these are merely electrical signals interpreted by the mind, but I believe whatever is learned in a spiritual sense is remains attached to this energy.

 

[Milton Platt]

In my view, when the body dies, the mind dies along with it. Whatever powers the body (life energy, prana, qi, soul, spirit, or whatever you wish to call it) though the law of the conservation of energy continues on in whatever form the divine determines. Memories are not attached to this energy, as these are merely electrical signals interpreted by the mind, but I believe whatever is learned in a spiritual sense is remains attached to this energy.

In what is a spiritual memory?

 

[SalixIncendium]

In what is a spiritual memory?

I really don't think of it as memory; memory is a mental function, and as I said, the mind dies with the body. However, any lessons learned though communion with divinity vis-a-vis meditation, prayer, etc., is retained in the life energy that continues on. I am of the opinion that intuition as example of this.

 

[Milton Platt]

I really don't think of it as memory; memory is a mental function, and as I said, the mind dies with the body. However, any lessons learned though communion with divinity vis-a-vis meditation, prayer, etc., is retained in the life energy that continues on. I am of the opinion that intuition as example of this.

Let me restate the question. How do retain memories of past experiences without a memory to retain them? Your statement seems counter intuitive. How do you remember lessons learned if you have no memory?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Let me restate the question. How do retain memories of past experiences without a memory to retain them? Your statement seems counter intuitive. How do you remember lessons learned if you have no memory?

You continue to use the term "memory" though I've already stated that the mind no longer functions. But since you insist on calling it as such, what is a memory? Is it not an electrical signal interpreted by the mind? A form of energy?

Since you restated the question, I will restate and elaborate upon my answer. I believe these lessons/experiences/divine knowledge (whatever you wish to call them) become of part of/are incorporated into my life energy that moves on in one form or another. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but you appear to be operating under the assumption that I believe that these lesson/experiences are carried from the mind of one incarnation to the mind of a sentient being in another. This may or may not be the case. I believe that these life energies can take any form. My life energies can potentially end up occupying anything after death, either sentient or otherwise, whether it is retained in one animate or inanimate object, or split off into many.

 

[Milton Platt]

You continue to use the term "memory" though I've already stated that the mind no longer functions. But since you insist on calling it as such, what is a memory? Is it not an electrical signal interpreted by the mind? A form of energy?

Since you restated the question, I will restate and elaborate upon my answer. I believe these lessons/experiences/divine knowledge (whatever you wish to call them) become of part of/are incorporated into my life energy that moves on in one form or another. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but you appear to be operating under the assumption that I believe that these lesson/experiences are carried from the mind of one incarnation to the mind of a sentient being in another. This may or may not be the case. I believe that these life energies can take any form. My life energies can potentially end up occupying anything after death, either sentient or otherwise, whether it is retained in one animate or inanimate object, or split off into many.

Okay, now I see what you are trying to say. Since I am an atheist, I do not come at things from the same direction. Sorry for the persistent obtusness. Thanks for your persistence

 

[SalixIncendium]

Okay, now I see what you are trying to say. Since I am an atheist, I do not come at things from the same direction. Sorry for the persistent obtusness. Thanks for your persistence

No worries. I completely understand the direction you are coming from given my affinity for science. I also rather enjoy having my theories/beliefs challenged. It keeps me thinking. :0)

 

[Super Universe]

We die and wake up in a spirit body at the ghost level. We move to a lighthouse and travel through to the next level. You awake in a place that looks like your idea of heaven and someone you know, probably a relative who has gone before you, greets you. They don't immediately tell you that you're not yet in heaven. The relative evades answering your many questions. They escort you to a door that you go through into a room. Inside the room you are introduced to your teacher then your relative escorts you into a courtyard where you meet the other students in your class. The relative then leaves through a door that only ascended beings can go through.

You learn, then you move to a higher level. This is repeated over and over again until you evolve into a Sentient Universal Being who can make the trip to heaven.