All his words...I doubt that.
I know many of his loyal fans,
& they don't see him that way.
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Your Experiences With Extremism
- Thread starter JustGeorge
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I know many of his loyal fans,
& they don't see him that way.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
We experience it each day of our life. We killed six terrorists in the last two days. The latest report says that three terrorists have entered India from Pakistan.
You said personal experience. Yes. By Sikhs during the Sikh separatist movement. By some Muslim clerics who were abusing Hindu Gods.
You said personal experience. Yes. By Sikhs during the Sikh separatist movement. By some Muslim clerics who were abusing Hindu Gods.
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Once each sentence you had to mention lord, jesus, alleluia, amen etc
Not natural for me so it felt strange, threatening.
Why do you say what I said was upside down? You just affirmed exactly what I said. I said everyone understands what that threat of punishment for leaving the group is, particularly the part where God will punish you for you making a personal choice outside the religion. You just affirmed you understand it. I'd say what I said is exactly level, not upside down.
It's a common human trait that assume that if we have found something that brings meaning into our lives, everyone else will have that same experience, and if they don't, there is something wrong with them. But for others, those for instance who may have found that your religion was not the right fit for them, they likewise could assume you are in error because they found the truth elsewhere, projecting what they now find more meaningful to them, should also be the truth for you. It's the same trait, or flipside of the same coin.
I think there are plenty of valid reasons why some may choose to leave their parent religion, or their adopted religion for that matter. Have you ever talked with an ex-Muslim and asked sincerely why they chose a different path? Or do you, like many do, just assume they are lost and damned because they don't accept what you accept? This was the point I made in my original post. That's not upside down, that's an accurate statement.
And this is what I meant by the psychological threats for thinking outside the group. This is what fundamentalism does that is damaging. "Love God, or else....", is not an invitation to something that may benefit you. It's about power and control over you.
That's not freedom. It's bondage to fear. As I said, it's fear-based. You are affirming everything I said.
Fortunately I have had no direct dealings with anything considered extremism, apart from travelling abroad to find some forms of transport are provided with an armed escort because of separatists and such. I limit my beliefs to those that tend not to harm others, will likely improve their lives, and hopefully give a better life for all rather than just a few, but I'll not insist on preaching such. When I was growing up there was hardly any extremism to bother most of us, so that fortunately it didn't even enter our lives.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
What state, specifically? This seems odd even by backwater states' standards.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So it was like the Smurfs where everything is smurfing or smurfy, but instead god?
Don't know the smurfs but yes. Most, if not all conversation was interspersed with religion
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Whaa? But anyway; The Smurfs - Wikipedia
Having both been one and interacted with many having very strongly held dogmatic opinions, which I often questioned: my conclusion is that we are better off using critical thinking based on provable facts in forming our opinions and beliefs.
There was a lot of social pressures and rejection of people having different views.
firedragon
Veteran Member
I have an experience with extremism. I have met a group of people from Nepal who are extremely isolated and religious always meditating. Nice bunch of men, but extreme in their faith and had left society in their path. Completely isolated.
GardenLady
Active Member
Not threatened, but I grew up Catholic south of the Mason Dixon line. As a result I encountered some people who had strong anti-Catholic sentiment and some bizarre notions. When a Methodist college friend got engaged to an Episcopalian, her parents’ reaction was horror. “Those people are practically Catholic.”
A different college friend who became a Oneness Pentecostal was rabid to save me from the beast who sits on 7 hills and is the mother of whores. She utterly rejected the idea that referred to the Roman Empire. And of course, to her church, the Pope was the anti-Christ.
A different college friend who became a Oneness Pentecostal was rabid to save me from the beast who sits on 7 hills and is the mother of whores. She utterly rejected the idea that referred to the Roman Empire. And of course, to her church, the Pope was the anti-Christ.