Your feelings regarding transgenders

[Spiderman]

if you are transgender and you're reading this, would you mind telling me how old you were when you realized you identify with the opposite gender ( if you remember)?

Did your loved ones react well to it?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

No. A home is a home. As long as they respect boundaries.

 

[RESOLUTION]

I was curious to know what the average person's gut feeling is.

I'm trying to overcome the indoctrination that I've gone through. Feelings are not always something a person can control.

I used to be terrified of spiders. I held one, and I realized by facing my fear, I love my fear. At first it was horrifying!

I currently own multiple tarantulas, and one of them is the largest species in the world. I just love their eight eyes, their eight legs, their colorful fur, and everything about them that used to scare me.

Point is, I had to overcome my fear by exposure to my fear. Now I love my fear. it's a lesson I take with me, cuz if I kept avoiding or running away from my fear, I would have never known how lovable my fear really is.

Gut feelings are not a good place to start. I am sorry you were indoctrinated and I see why you would use the word 'gut' feeling. Prejudice is never a good place to start. But when it comes to fears we can overcome them but 'phobias' which are irrational fears are not so easy to defeat. Truth is what was it you feared about spiders. Most people have a fear of something or other. DANGER being one of the real reasons for fear. Personally, I would find nothing attractive about Tarantulas. God ,made them too so maybe a sense of humour? Man so big afraid of something so small. But another human being why should we fear anyone who means us no harm? Fear... is what saves us from danger and gives us the Adrenalin to run away from danger. There is good fear and bad fear but irrational has place.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Just curious, if there was a disaster that left you homeless, and a person (who had many of the qualities you admire in a person), invited you to live with them, but they were transgender, would you be any more uncomfortable accepting the offer, then were they not transgender?

Or, if your kid was going to a foster home, would you feel any less comfortable with your child going to that foster home, if one or both of the foster parents were transgender?

Early in my conversion to Christianity, I'd be a bit frightened. But I've changed a bit.

Do you know anyone who is transgender, in real life?
As of lately, I've made a friend who is male who often wears a skirt and high heels. It doesn't bother me at all. But I actually don't know any transgender people in real life (to my knowledge). I'd like to though.

Regarding the first scenario, I'd be more comfortable if it was a female who became male, than a male who became female. Feelings interfere.

Don't know about the second.

The way I see it, I've got enough issues that I should not judge anyone, but sometimes feelings still interfere.

Just curious what most people's feelings are these days.

No. My cousin is a beautiful woman, maried for almost ten years, finnally her whole family accepts her, and overcame involence, depression, and all the above to where she is now.

Our sex is not near important as our gender and our sexual identity. Therefore, it doesnt matter how a person was born, if he or she is good in character his or her sex is not the issue but being comfortable in one's gender.

Going by that, no, I wouldnt be incomfortable. I try to go to LGBT suport groups in my area and generally dont know who is transgrender until They tell me not what I tell them.

 

[Spiderman]

Gut feelings are not a good place to start. I am sorry you were indoctrinated and I see why you would use the word 'gut' feeling. Prejudice is never a good place to start. But when it comes to fears we can overcome them but 'phobias' which are irrational fears are not so easy to defeat. Truth is what was it you feared about spiders. Most people have a fear of something or other. DANGER being one of the real reasons for fear. Personally, I would find nothing attractive about Tarantulas. God ,made them too so maybe a sense of humour? Man so big afraid of something so small. But another human being why should we fear anyone who means us no harm? Fear... is what saves us from danger and gives us the Adrenalin to run away from danger. There is good fear and bad fear but irrational has place.

I really can't tell you what it was I feared about spiders. The eight legs, too many eyes, had something to do with it, they just really scared me. I mean there's always the fear of getting bit, but I've been bit many times and it doesn't bother me anymore, but the fear was deeper than just getting bit... It was far from rational fear , so I can't Tell you why.

Neither can I tell you why there is an uncomfortable feeling around certain gays or transsexuals. I think it has something to do with some religious scrupulosity that tells me there's possible demons involved...

Some of my fear of homosexuals has to do with gay people that came onto me, and a gay guy that touched my crotch without my permission...

 

[Twilight Hue]

Just curious, if there was a disaster that left you homeless, and a person (who had many of the qualities you admire in a person), invited you to live with them, but they were transgender, would you be any more uncomfortable accepting the offer, then were they not transgender?

Or, if your kid was going to a foster home, would you feel any less comfortable with your child going to that foster home, if one or both of the foster parents were transgender?

Early in my conversion to Christianity, I'd be a bit frightened. But I've changed a bit.

Do you know anyone who is transgender, in real life?
As of lately, I've made a friend who is male who often wears a skirt and high heels. It doesn't bother me at all. But I actually don't know any transgender people in real life (to my knowledge). I'd like to though.

Regarding the first scenario, I'd be more comfortable if it was a female who became male, than a male who became female. Feelings interfere.

Don't know about the second.

The way I see it, I've got enough issues that I should not judge anyone, but sometimes feelings still interfere.

Just curious what most people's feelings are these days.

Personally with me people should be able to do what they want and live the kind of lives they would like to live.

That said, I think a lot of issues that transgendered people have today actually bring it upon themselves to a degree given that they can't come to terms with their natural makeup and comes across as rather confused people.

Slapping on opposing genitalia doesn't solve issues completely I think, nor does it make one male or female respectively.

Transgender people often times appear freakish to people.

Hell it's even tough with natural born hermaphrodites of which I consider a legitimate third sex.

It's going to take many generations from now for people to adjust culturally and become more comfortable with people who make lifestyle changes and choices and while I admire coming out of the closet for people, I remain realistic about it as well in regards to the tough road they face.

For me my feelings are mix of compassion and the question why would you do that to yourself?

Well social media is accepting and I'm glad that the message is getting across in helping people understand, however if you go into the real world and listen and observe, you will find that feelings and opinions for transgendered people are pretty negative as they stand right now.

 

[Spiderman]

you will find that feelings and opinions for transgendered people are pretty negative as they stand right now.

Certainly not at RF.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

however if you go into the real world and listen and observe, you will find that feelings and opinions for transgendered people are pretty negative as they stand right now.

That's not true. I find most people don't really care or are curious about it. It may vary by location but it's generally not that bad.

 

[RESOLUTION]

I really can't tell you what it was I feared about spiders. The eight legs, too many eyes, had something to do with it, they just really scared me. I mean there's always the fear of getting bit, but I've been bit many times and it doesn't bother me anymore, but the fear was deeper than just getting bit... It was far from rational fear , so I can't Tell you why.

Neither can I tell you why there is an uncomfortable feeling around certain gays or transsexuals. I think it has something to do with some religious scrupulosity that tells me there's possible demons involved...

Some of my fear of homosexuals has to do with gay people that came onto me, and a gay guy that touched my crotch without my permission...

Whether Heterosexual or Homosexual, inappropriate touching and assault is not acceptable. Anyone who makes unwanted advances and does not stop when told to, are breaking the law and being abusive toward that person. Bad behaviour has nothing to do with sexuality it has to do with the persons in question being blatant sexual predators who assault the innocent.

Demons do not cause people to become Homosexuals. Anyone can be possessed even pigs as we saw in the bible when Christ sent the demon called legion out of the man into the pigs and they died. We should always treat others with respect and dignity and those who assaulted you, you should have reported you may have saved someone.

 

[Reaper]

if you are transgender and you're reading this, would you mind telling me how old you were when you realized you identify with the opposite gender ( if you remember)?

Did your loved ones react well to it?

I was 7 when I first experienced dysphoria, I came out to friends at 17, to family at 18.
As a child my behavior was passed off as being a tomboy, and when I came out as an adult to friends and family the reactions varied but most were supportive.

 

[Spiderman]

Whether Heterosexual or Homosexual, inappropriate touching and assault is not acceptable. Anyone who makes unwanted advances and does not stop when told to, are breaking the law and being abusive toward that person. Bad behaviour has nothing to do with sexuality it has to do with the persons in question being blatant sexual predators who assault the innocent.

Demons do not cause people to become Homosexuals. Anyone can be possessed even pigs as we saw in the bible when Christ sent the demon called legion out of the man into the pigs and the died. We should always treat others with respect and dignity and those who assaulted you, you should have reported you may have saved someone.

yeah it was really freaky, I just met the guy and he offered to give me a ride to work, offered me some marijuana, got me stoned, then touched my leg and asked if I wanted to hook up, and then he touched my junk and I pushed his hand away... and felt sick all day, for I assumed the worst and thought he was some sort of a serial killer like John Gacy (while it was going on) . no I didn't report it

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's not true. I find most people don't really care or are curious about it. It may vary by location but it's generally not that bad.

Could be. I can only speak for the areas I travel to.

 

[RESOLUTION]

yeah it was really freaky, I just met the guy and he offered to give me a ride to work, offered me some marijuana, got me stoned, then touched my leg and asked if I wanted to hook up, and then he touched my junk and I pushed his hand away... and felt sick all day, for I assumed the worst and thought he was some sort of a serial killer like John Gacy (while it was going on) . no I didn't report it

Do you know something... I am not going to ask what next. Accepting a lift from a stranger??? Accepting Marijuana and getting yourself stoned? What he did was well out of order. But I am not sure why when he asked you to hook up you just didn't say 'NO'. Never taken drugs but would never accept a lift from a stranger or take drugs. Not judging you but did you really make reasonable decisions. Glad you know better and were safe.

 

[Spiderman]

Do you know something... I am not going to ask what next. Accepting a lift from a stranger??? Accepting Marijuana and getting yourself stoned? What he did was well out of order. But I am not sure why when he asked you to hook up you just didn't say 'NO'. Never taken drugs but would never accept a lift from a stranger or take drugs. Not judging you but did you really make reasonable decisions. Glad you know better and were safe.

Having good judgement was never a gift God gave me. All the times I've been found unresponsive from drug overdoses, and all the bones I've broken from drug related injuries, I'm really lucky that I'm not in a wheelchair for life.

Also, if you think my judgment was bad letting a guy drive me to work, I had a gay guy take me off the streets and let me live it as Yacht for a few months.

no I did not give him any sexual favors. He was a good person. But letting some stranger take me off the streets and to his place like that, is very poor judgement. Almost reckless

 

[YmirGF]

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

 

[Spiderman]

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

that appears to be the general consensus of this forum.

I'm glad to see that I didn't start a thread that opened a can of worms again

I was slightly worried that it might

 

[RESOLUTION]

Having good judgement was never a gift God gave me. All the times I've been found unresponsive from drug overdoses, and all the bones I've broken from drug related injuries, I'm really lucky that I'm not in a wheelchair for life.

Also, if you think my judgment was bad letting a guy drive me to work, I had a gay guy take me off the streets and let me live it as Yacht for a few months.

no I did not give him any sexual favors. He was a good person. But letting some stranger take me off the streets and to his place like that, is very poor judgement. Almost reckless

You do seem to have inability to reason the good and bad. I am sorry you have been under such rough circumstances. There we have to accept the things our decisions have caused. However the fact a person who is homosexual took you off the streets and gave you a place to stay without expecting anything untoward from you, proves the point that sexuality does not make a person bad. You are confused and need to stop reading bad into good things.

 

[BSM1]

Funny you should ask. Our bass player is transgendering (?). We've only known her for a few months but she has become dedicated to us. It took me a few minutes to get orientated to the situation, but after she started playing the first time with us it just seemed natural. Now I find myself feeling protective of her, but she's over six feet tall, has not had her operations yet (first of August), and, if I understand her, she's been in this transition for almost two years so she can probably handle herself if needs be. BTW, the hardest thing for me was referring to her as "her' because she is still more masculine than feminine.

 

[RESOLUTION]

Funny you should ask. Our bass player is transgendering (?). We've only known her for a few months but she has become dedicated to us. It took me a few minutes to get orientated to the situation, but after she started playing the first time with us it just seemed natural. Now I find myself feeling protective of her, but she's over six feet tall, has not had her operations yet (first of August), and, if I understand her, she's been in this transition for almost two years so she can probably handle herself if needs be. BTW, the hardest thing for me was referring to her as "her' because she is still more masculine than feminine.

I can only pray she makes the right decision for her. That she will not find isolation as so many do after their operation. Brought back memories of a guy who like your friend was a bass guitarist for famous band he like your friend was very tall. He has a relationship with a woman who had been a man. It ended very badly so I just hope your friend knows what they are doing. I wish your band success.

 

[Spiderman]

@RESOLUTION
You are clearly a Christian. How do you reconcile approving of and sanctioning homosexual acts as not being sinful, when the Bible says otherwise?