Your kid is fat!

[Booko]

My wife and I shy away from buying anything with High Fructose Corn Syrup as well. But just look at it - you, my wife, and I all avoid this substance without the government forcing us to.

Yeah, and follow me around grocery shopping sometime trying to avoid it, RFX. We'll go probably 5-6 different places and take an entire day. Hey, I have nothing better to do. :sarcastic

Ultimately, I don't think it will make much difference. As people figure out they shouldn't be eating the stuff, marketers will figure out they can make a buck selling food without it. It's like the rise in organic food. There's a market, they'll make it.

However, don't forget that you and I are paying for the medical effects of that high fructose corn syrup that's jammed into everything. We're paying higher insurance premiums and higher taxes to pay for the medical care *others* will need because they don't know any better.

 

[Radio Frequency X]

However, don't forget that you and I are paying for the medical effects of that high fructose corn syrup that's jammed into everything. We're paying higher insurance premiums and higher taxes to pay for the medical care *others* will need because they don't know any better.

That's the price of liberty. However, laws and liberalism (Big Government) are the price of Democracy, so I should be careful with my stone-casting.

 

[Booko]

That's the price of liberty.

Well, exactly. That's why I'm not campaigning for banning the stuff.

I AM however, keenly interested in some real truth in labeling. Some of the stuff they put in foods without mentioning it can literally kill people. I do think I have some right to know what the heck it is I'm eating. It's not gonna break any businesses' budget to tell the truth.

However, laws and liberalism (Big Government) are the price of Democracy, so I should be careful with my stone-casting.

These days, it would be better to just call it Big Government. It's hardly the realm of just liberalism any more.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Et tu, Mercy?

Alright, I'll bite.

Taking away free time from kids is just wrong on so many levels. With an ever-increasing importance on test scores and academic performance, physical education and especially recess time often takes a back seat or disappears entirely. This inhibit this very academic ability of a child, as research has proven that strong neural connections establish themselves in a youngster's mind during intense, free playtime in ways that can almost not be done any other way. Then there's the obvious physical benefits to outdoor playtime, including improved cardiovascular performance, metabolism, and weight management.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

That's the price of liberty. However, laws and liberalism (Big Government) are the price of Democracy, so I should be careful with my stone-casting.

Now careful, man. I think you're tossing around some words too liberally there.

 

[Booko]

Taking away free time from kids is just wrong on so many levels. With an ever-increasing importance on test scores and academic performance, physical education and especially recess time often takes a back seat or disappears entirely. This inhibit this very academic ability of a child, as research has proven that strong neural connections establish themselves in a youngster's mind during intense, free playtime in ways that can almost not be done any other way. Then there's the obvious physical benefits to outdoor playtime, including improved cardiovascular performance, metabolism, and weight management.

You'll get no argument from me, Mercy. I've found the sheer quantity of twaddle in my kids school curricula to be an offense, especially when there's nothing left for unstructured time. At some times, we had to choose between bathing and sleep. And they still didn't know anywhere near what I was learning at that age. Something's wrong with that picture.

Personally, I think that state's that mandate recess are on the right track. Even office workers get up and stretch and hang at the coffee pot now and again, yet we won't even let the kids do that much. Weird.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

You'll get no argument from me, Mercy. I've found the sheer quantity of twaddle in my kids school curricula to be an offense, especially when there's nothing left for unstructured time. At some times, we had to choose between bathing and sleep. And they still didn't know anywhere near what I was learning at that age. Something's wrong with that picture.

Personally, I think that state's that mandate recess are on the right track. Even office workers get up and stretch and hang at the coffee pot now and again, yet we won't even let the kids do that much. Weird.

Wow. State-mandated recess time--it may well come to that, Booko.

The disgusting thing is, there'd be people in our capitol who fight such a measure tooth and nail.

 

[Mathematician]

My wife and I shy away from buying anything with High Fructose Corn Syrup as well. But just look at it - you, my wife, and I all avoid this substance without the government forcing us to.

If we're still talking about public chools, I don't see anything wrong with banning certain items from at least being distributed to students. Supply and demand doesn't work in school cafeterias; there's almost always a monopoly. Although students are for the most part allowed to bring bag lunches, the majority still buy their food from the school.

Recently our campus fought Aramark just to have a sandwhich line installed. Coca-Cola actually defeated our request to replace some of the candy and beverages found in our machines.

You wouldn't know how many times I've watched a kid buy a 600 calorie honey-bun just because he only had one dollar, and then there's those students who will treat the honey-bun as a snack.

I think schools need to do something to address this growing problem. They pick up the ball for students when it comes to sex and social tolerance, why not health?

 

[standing_alone]

Recently our high school fought Aramark just to have a sandwhich line installed.

Ah, so your school gets its food from that evil, too?

 

[Ðanisty]

Alright, I'll bite.

Taking away free time from kids is just wrong on so many levels. With an ever-increasing importance on test scores and academic performance, physical education and especially recess time often takes a back seat or disappears entirely. This inhibit this very academic ability of a child, as research has proven that strong neural connections establish themselves in a youngster's mind during intense, free playtime in ways that can almost not be done any other way. Then there's the obvious physical benefits to outdoor playtime, including improved cardiovascular performance, metabolism, and weight management.

I'll agree on recess, but I have problems with physical education class. You just said that free playtime is great for youngsters. I've never experienced a PE class that was in any way free or felt anything like playtime to me. I doubt being forced to play softball has the same good effect as allowing a kid to find their own enjoyable physical activity.

 

[Booko]

If we're still talking about public chools, I don't see anything wrong with banning certain items from at least being distributed to students. Supply and demand doesn't work in school cafeterias; there's almost always a monopoly.

I think so as well. We're not talking about banning things in grocery stores. That would be completely different.

Besides, it's a mixed message to teach one thing in health and then find the cafeteria food breaks all the rules.

Oh yeah...they teach 'em pizza is good for you. :sarcastic

Coca-Cola actually defeated our request to replace some of the candy and beverages found in our machines.

That's bizarre. Shouldn't it be up to the SCHOOL to determine what's in the school?

I think schools need to do something to address this growing problem. They pick up the ball for students when it comes to sex and social tolerance, why not health?

Really, you'd think that health would be the first and least controversial priority in the subjects you mentioned...

 

[UnTheist]

Is there any way I can change my school's food choices? What we get is utter crap, and some of the food is probably from a week ago.

 

[Radio Frequency X]

Is there any way I can change my school's food choices? What we get is utter crap, and some of the food is probably from a week ago.

I'd try a petition. However, it might make more sense to simply bring the kind of food with you that you want to eat instead of forcing everyone to eat the food you want to eat.

 

[jacquie4000]

I think parents need to take more responsibilty to ensure their kids are healthy. To many parents feed their kids quick fixes today. Fast food, junk food so much more then when I grew up. No time in their busy lives. But we have to make time. Whether they are skinny or overweight. Today's life style's of eating are not healty for alot of people.

 

[Booko]

I think parents need to take more responsibilty to ensure their kids are healthy. To many parents feed their kids quick fixes today. Fast food, junk food so much more then when I grew up. No time in their busy lives. But we have to make time. Whether they are skinny or overweight. Today's life style's of eating are not healty for alot of people.

So true! There was a while there when there was really no time for eating between school and dance, so we'd go through Wendy's or Chick-fil-a 2 times a week and Eibhlin would eat in the car.

I'm sorry, but that's no way to eat. :no:

After half a year, she started feeling really bad after eating the Chick-fil-a, so we cut that out. Then Wendy's started making her sick. I've never been able to eat Chick-fil-a, and that's relatively "good" fast food. :cover:

The closest thing to fast food we have now is Waffle House. There's not much you can do to eggs to mess them up.

And there's one place with gyros that has good quality food. If we're in a bind between voice and musical theatre, I get her a gyro to eat for dinner. Those are pretty much our options.

I now cook extra the day before, if Eibhlin is pressed for time, and so I just have to nuke her something to eat before she's off to dance. Tonight's dinner was yesterday's meatloaf and some veggies.

 

[Booko]

Is there any way I can change my school's food choices? What we get is utter crap, and some of the food is probably from a week ago.

RFX is right. Just bring your own food.

The thing is, kids don't have a lot of power to change what schools do.

In my experience, there are 2 ways to get a school to think logically and respond to actual concerns:

1. Mention the Neal Boortz show
2. Say something that vaguely suggests legal liability


(Well, you don't have to mention Boortz, but school administrators, like all petty bureaucrats, do NOT like to be publically embarassed, which Neal is more than happy to do if you call his show.)

 

[Mathematician]

That's bizarre. Shouldn't it be up to the SCHOOL to determine what's in the school?

Actually, from what I know, the machines belong to Coca-Cola.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

I'll agree on recess, but I have problems with physical education class. You just said that free playtime is great for youngsters. I've never experienced a PE class that was in any way free or felt anything like playtime to me. I doubt being forced to play softball has the same good effect as allowing a kid to find their own enjoyable physical activity.

Well yeah, PE is only a good thing if done right, which it isn't always. It's short for "Pain Education" in some programs....

 

[Booko]

Actually, from what I know, the machines belong to Coca-Cola.

Yeah, my kids HS called Coca-Cola and told them to come get their machines.

Coca-Cola doesn't own the school -- not even in Atlanta, where Coca-Cola is God.

 

[Ðanisty]

1. Mention the Neal Boortz show

Hey, does he do a talk radio show out of Atlanta? I think I heard him once when I was driving around taking pics for the courthouse. He was awesome!