Your Motivation

[Thief]

I have long concluded that it is profoundly anti-social to become a zombie, so I would rather not.

ok....but if the zombie would do unto you as he would have it done unto himself......

hehehehehe

 

[Thief]

Neither its not that simple a question. I have both self wants but also wants for others (family and friends). A simple thing like gardening makes me need things most people couldn't care about. Life is a compromise of wants, needs and desires for Me, My family and the others that help me get what I need to survive.

Unless you live in the woods with your own live stock and garden daily and are medically trained, you need the assistance of others and thereby need to compromise with them.

jumping to the next life......
you might need to be born (as in carried or cared for)......
to learn the territory, the language and the scheme of things

having done unto you for your sake....
God and heaven might expect the same in return.....that you can walk in grace among the angelic

 

[bobhikes]

jumping to the next life......
you might need to be born (as in carried or cared for)......
to learn the territory, the language and the scheme of things

having done unto you for your sake....
God and heaven might expect the same in return.....that you can walk in grace among the angelic

Thanks but that's not a problem. I wish only to walk in this life. I expect God to either let me fade from existance or to allow me to be reborn to this earth.

 

[corynski]

It's obvious that people have no conclusive proof of anything supernatural, or they might agree upon that. But instead there have been thousands of deities created by humans over the last few hundred thousand years of homo sapiens evolution, as each human group creates it's own deity and religion. If the schools would teach anthropology, and mythology, i.e. a record of the beliefs created by humans, then we would hopefully be relieved of all these make-believe gods and goddesses. Religion is a cultural tool to achieve group identity and cohesion within a social group.......
Please tell me what proof you have, other than your 'hopes and feelings', regarding anything supernatural, and you might have an intelligent discussion......

 

[Thief]

Thanks but that's not a problem. I wish only to walk in this life. I expect God to either let me fade from existance or to allow me to be reborn to this earth.

i have not ruled out reincarnation

there are skills i possess that feel as if my hands already the work
but without the recall of previous events I cannot affirm it

and the redundancy will end

Man will not always have this planet

 

[Thief]

It's obvious that people have no conclusive proof of anything supernatural, or they might agree upon that. But instead there have been thousands of deities created by humans over the last few hundred thousand years of homo sapiens evolution, as each human group creates it's own deity and religion. If the schools would teach anthropology, and mythology, i.e. a record of the beliefs created by humans, then we would hopefully be relieved of all these make-believe gods and goddesses. Religion is a cultural tool to achieve group identity and cohesion within a social group.......
Please tell me what proof you have, other than your 'hopes and feelings', regarding anything supernatural, and you might have an intelligent discussion......

cause and effect

the universe is the effect
God is the Cause

 

[Willamena]

Do unto others as you would have it done unto you
most of us abide accordingly

they who have intention toward the next life.....will continue
they who make denial of spirit ....will not

but for now we seem the same

but are we?

'After death' is a fantasy. The time to treat people kindly is now.

 

[Thief]

'After death' is a fantasy. The time to treat people kindly is now.

and you are sure......no life after death

and all 7billion+ copies of a learning device (Man) will end up terminal

no one survives the last breath?

not one chance in billions?

 

[Willamena]

and you are sure......no life after death

and all 7billion+ copies of a learning device (Man) will end up terminal

no one survives the last breath?

not one chance in billions?

It seems rather obvious: if something continues after "death," then it's not death at all.

 

[Thief]

It seems rather obvious: if something continues after "death," then it's not death at all.

ok....

unless the peace of heaven really IS guarded

there are several parables that end ....badly

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Neither

 

[Willamena]

ok....

unless the peace of heaven really IS guarded

there are several parables that end ....badly

I don't know what that means.

 

[Thief]

I don't know what that means.

I suspect it is possible to lose your spiritual life

and since you seem to have no belief in life after death
the loss of this life may be as far as you go

 

[Willamena]

I suspect it is possible to lose your spiritual life

and since you seem to have no belief in life after death
the loss of this life may be as far as you go

Q: Is "your spiritual life" equal to "your conscious life"?

 

[The magical volleyball]

If Christians are correct and there is an afterlife and one of the most important qualities to enter this afterlife is humility. Then wouldn't it stand to reason that any person who believes they are deserving of eternal life and already has a reserved spot inside has already failed this test?

 

[Thief]

Q: Is "your spiritual life" equal to "your conscious life"?

I will say yes

and that would include dream state....as we are able to be aware such things

 

[Thief]

If Christians are correct and there is an afterlife and one of the most important qualities to enter this afterlife is humility. Then wouldn't it stand to reason that any person who believes they are deserving of eternal life and already has a reserved spot inside has already failed this test?

and if you acquire the same frame of mind as the Carpenter.....
does your question still work?

 

[The magical volleyball]

and if you acquire the same frame of mind as the Carpenter.....
does your question still work?

The "carpenter" frame of mind? Perhaps you could explain what you mean by this a little better. I'm having trouble understanding how a carpenter would view things differently.

 

[Thief]

The "carpenter" frame of mind? Perhaps you could explain what you mean by this a little better. I'm having trouble understanding how a carpenter would view things differently.

the whole point of His ministry was to change the way people think and feel
hence the parables

and without His word in mind and heart
how would you be one of His?

so of course....adopting His frame of mind is the 'point'