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Your partner's religion (or lack thereof)

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Well, to be fair, although my best friend lives in a different country, I spend at least a few minutes a day with him on Facebook almost every day. And I have been for the last seven years. He's basically a platonic relationship at this point. And he often messages me first too, so the feeling is reciprocal between us.
My best friend is Duane @Truthseeker who lives in Ohio. I have known him since we were both on Planet Baha'i together starting in 2013, and we have kept in close touch ever since. We had a lot in common such as having gotten married around the same year and having become Baha'is at about the same year. Now of course we no longer share being married since I am a widow.
I've dated before and never really found a connection. I'd rather be alone than with someone who doesn't value what I do for them. Yes, I am quite younger than you, only being 33, but life expectancy keeps going up and you are female. You probably got at least another ten years of living before you die. But you still work whereas I am on disability, so in that sense, I do have much more free time than you. I just don't want to waste that time on the wrong people, and in my 20s, I did that a lot. Many of the friends I made in my 20s are now dead.
I never dated before I met my late husband. We were set up by my mother and sister who were Baha'is in his community. Now I am faced with the prospect of having to date if I want to remarry and I don't like it at all. I would rather be set up again or meet a man online, as from a dating site.

I don't want to waste time with the wrong man, as I did with that man who lived in his car, since I have no time to waste at my age! I could live a lot longer that 10 more years as my mother lived to be 93, and she was a smoker and a drinker. I see no reason to spend all my time alone for the years I have left, especially because I do have a lot to offer a man. I am not bad looking, look 10 years younger than my age, I am in verey good health, and I am very physically active, as much as I was 20 years ago. I also I have many financial assets and I think I have a good character even though there is always work to be done.

So the problem is finding a man that I like who would also like me. I would really rather marry a Baha'i man since we would be on the same page from the start and we could be spiritual help-mates. I have already tried the only two Baha'i dating sites I know of but I heard tat Baha'is have a Baha'is singles group on Facebook and I have been trying to get onto Facebook for the last two days, but my account cannot be verified so I cannot get in. It is so frustrating! I have tried virtually everything, even setting up a new account with a differnt e-mail, but that didn't work either.
My best friend is a few years older than me but is still in a healthy condition. I suspect I will spend many more years talking to him. We've even mentioned visiting in real life, but even if we never do, he will always be part of what I call "my inner circle". I cherish every day that I get to talk with him. I cherish my time in RF too, and being able to talk to unlike people, in the spiritual sense.
It is nice to have a best friend and maybe that is enough if one has never been married, but having been married for 37 years it is hard to deal with being alone, and it is not as if I had any time to adjust to it, since it all happened so suddenly.

It is nice to meet in person but if that is not possible people can still be best friends, like Duane and I.
I'm sure you have friends to spend time with too. Nobody is an island, as they say.
No, I don't have any friends that I see in person. I never bothered to try to make friends since my late husband was my best friend.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
What is your partner's religious/spiritual beliefs? Does it align with yours? Does it matter?

I remember in my former baptist church, they taught that we should only date fellow Christians.

I've been in three relationships, including my current one. My first one, my ex wife, was extremely spiritual. She broke down my belief that all other religions besides Christianity were evil and introduced me to eastern religion/practices. We would read, meditate, and pray together. Her spiritual zeal was why I fell in love with her. I loved our mutual spirituality, it was my favorite aspect of our relationship.

In my second relationship, my partner was open to spirituality but was unsure what they believed. They weren't spiritual though. I ended up closing off my spiritual life from them and this did my relationship no good.

In my current relationship, my boyfriend is 100% atheist. I'm being open about my spirituality and it's a topic we are often discussing. I don't intend on convincing him of anything. I really don't care to. But I am on my own when it comes to my spirituality. Meditating and praying with my partner is a thing of the past. It took me a long time to accept that, but I think I finally have.

I like the guy. But I wonder if my life partner should have similar spiritual outlooks as me. We could be psychonauts together. When the gods call on me, and I answer, how could my boyfriend understand? Few could. Should I search for the few who understand? Or is it irrelevant if my partner understands?

I've given up on the settling down idea. As I am reborn, and change, I'll see if my boyfriend is along for the ride. If not, I'll keep driving. In my previous relationship, the relationship took precedence over my spirituality. This is no longer the case.

I'm interested in your anecdotes, wisdom, and experiences. Please share! :^]

My wife of almost 50 years is not religious. Life and marriage is a lot easier with a spouse who has the same religious beliefs.
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
My best friend is Duane @Truthseeker who lives in Ohio. I have known him since we were both on Planet Baha'i together starting in 2013, and we have kept in close touch ever since. We had a lot in common such as having gotten married around the same year and having become Baha'is at about the same year. Now of course we no longer share being married since I am a widow.
Too bad @Truthseeker isn't a widower like you. Or, I guess, it's good that his wife is still alive, but, if she wasn't, it would give you an opportunity to possibly be with him. I don't know.
I never dated before I met my late husband. We were set up by my mother and sister who were Baha'is in his community. Now I am faced with the prospect of having to date if I want to remarry and I don't like it at all. I would rather be set up again or meet a man online, as from a dating site.
Maybe it is possible to be setup again. I don't know who you know. There's quite a few Baha'is on these forums and even more on the Baha'i Discord server. I can link you up with that if you'd like. I don't know if you use Discord.
I don't want to waste time with the wrong man, as I did with that man who lived in his car, since I have no time to waste at my age! I could live a lot longer that 10 more years as my mother lived to be 93, and she was a smoker and a drinker. I see no reason to spend all my time alone for the years I have left, especially because I do have a lot to offer a man. I am not bad looking, look 10 years younger than my age, I am in verey good health, and I am very physically active, as much as I was 20 years ago. I also I have many financial assets and I think I have a good character even though there is always work to be done.
I think you're a good person too. I can't rate your attractiveness because I've never seen a picture of you, but I bet any guy would be lucky to be with you based on your personality alone.
So the problem is finding a man that I like who would also like me. I would really rather marry a Baha'i man since we would be on the same page from the start and we could be spiritual help-mates. I have already tried the only two Baha'i dating sites I know of but I heard tat Baha'is have a Baha'is singles group on Facebook and I have been trying to get onto Facebook for the last two days, but my account cannot be verified so I cannot get in. It is so frustrating! I have tried virtually everything, even setting up a new account with a differnt e-mail, but that didn't work either.
Sometimes I get locked out of my Facebook too. I usually just reset my password to get back in. As long as you have your original email you used when you created the account it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
It is nice to have a best friend and maybe that is enough if one has never been married, but having been married for 37 years it is hard to deal with being alone, and it is not as if I had any time to adjust to it, since it all happened so suddenly.
When I had to leave my parents house it took a huge toll on me. I nearly committed suicide due to how alone I felt at first. But I've recovered and now I thrive on being alone or just texting with my best friend.
It is nice to meet in person but if that is not possible people can still be best friends, like Duane and I.

No, I don't have any friends that I see in person. I never bothered to try to make friends since my late husband was my best friend.
Oh, by the island thing I was referring to online friends as well. I only have one real life friend that visits me about once every three months, but I spend a lot of time online talking to my friends and chatting on Discord servers. My parents and my two best friends are in my inner circle, I talk to all of them at least once a week and I visit my parents house once every two months now.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I'm interested in your anecdotes, wisdom, and experiences. Please share! :^]

My husband is a devout Christian. I was one for thirty years before I renounced my faith and belief in God two years ago. He was very supportive when I decided to leave Christianity, and he continues to be supportive. We've never had any conflict over my leaving Christianity and choosing a new religion. We get along just fine, as we always have, because we have mutual respect, love, and trust between us. We will always be soulmates and best friends.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
My wife of almost 50 years is not religious. Life and marriage is a lot easier with a spouse who has the same religious beliefs.
Yet you have managed for 50 years.... good for you two!
I did not think I really needed to marry a Baha'i, but lately I have been feeling that is the best course of action, IF I ever have the opportunity. This thread and the similar one I started have helped me realize that.

My late husband was a Baha'i. He had been a Baha'i since 1964, and I had been since 1970. That and our mutual love for the cats is what held the marriage together, against all odds.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Yet you have managed for 50 years.... good for you two!
I did not think I really needed to marry a Baha'i, but lately I have been feeling that is the best course of action, IF I ever have the opportunity. This thread and the similar one I started have helped me realize that.

My late husband was a Baha'i. He had been a Baha'i since 1964, and I had been since 1970. That and our mutual love for the cats is what held the marriage together, against all odds.

It helps to have things like that in common, lives heading in the one direction, especially when they are big things, like religious beliefs.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Too bad @Truthseeker isn't a widower like you. Or, I guess, it's good that his wife is still alive, but, if she wasn't, it would give you an opportunity to possibly be with him. I don't know.
If his wife passes on before he does we might consider being together, and he might even move to my area, but we would continue to be only best friends.
Maybe it is possible to be setup again. I don't know who you know. There's quite a few Baha'is on these forums and even more on the Baha'i Discord server. I can link you up with that if you'd like. I don't know if you use Discord.
A long time ago I used Discord but as I recall it was difficult for me to navigate. I don't even know how to get into there now. I would like to try it again if there are a lot of Baha'is on there, even though they are probably younger Baha'is.
I think you're a good person too. I can't rate your attractiveness because I've never seen a picture of you, but I bet any guy would be lucky to be with you based on your personality alone.
Well thanks. I like to think that but everyone has their own requirements so I don't know what men would like me. But at least if could meet some men online or in person I would have a chance.
Sometimes I get locked out of my Facebook too. I usually just reset my password to get back in. As long as you have your original email you used when you created the account it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Facebook keeps asking me to verify my identity, but then the message says it cannot verify my identity. I tried setting up a new account with a new e-mail and password but that didn't work either.
When I had to leave my parents house it took a huge toll on me. I nearly committed suicide due to how alone I felt at first. But I've recovered and now I thrive on being alone or just texting with my best friend.
I had a life situation somewhat similar to yours before I got married.

I can remember when I first left home after high school to go to college. Home was in upstate NY and college was in S California. I had been living with my mother and it was really hard being way from home, even though I was with my sister who was about a year older than me. I remember feeling so alone and writing my mother letters almost every day, as those were the days before there were computers and the internet, and phone calls were long distance and very expensive. It was not that I was that emotionally bonded with my mother, it was separation anxiety disorder.

I went to several colleges for my BA degree and I lived with my sister for some of that time and lived alone for a short time, but for my last year of college I returned to NY to live with my mother. After I got my BA degree I worked at a couple of jobs in NY but I then decided to go to grad school, so I took off all alone to go to grad school in Idaho. I lived alone there for about a year, but them my mother moved out to Idaho to live with me. That was around 1975. After I graduated with my MA degree I worked in Idaho for about a year, but then I moved to Utah for another job, and my mother came with me. After working in Utah for a couple of years I got transferred to another job in northern California and my mother moved with me.

I remained living with my mother till about 1982, when I started seeing a psychiatrist. But what happened after I was put on several drugs for depression and anxiety is that the psychiatrist told me I should absolutely not live with my mother anymore, so I moved to my own apartment and my mother moved down to S California to be closer to my sister. I lived alone for about a year and I liked living alone. I had a federal job so I was very stable. I had no desire to find a boyfriend or get married. It was after that year that my mother and sister set me up with my late husband and we got married three weeks later and were married for 37 years.

So having been married and living with the same person for 37 years it is really hard to get used to living alone. It is not so much that I am lonely. I don't feel lonely since I have the cats and people to talk to online. I do not need cuddling and affection since I get plenty of that from the cats. More of it is my worry about this house and what I am not going to be able to do with it as long as I am alone. I also worry if I will ever retire as long as I am alone.

As you know, I really don't want a romantic relationship so that puts me in an awkward position, since that is what most men want if they are going to get married. One would think that by my age there would be some men who don't care about sex anymore, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I might be willing to have sex if I was in love and married but I don't want a relationship that is focused on that. I want a companion and a spiritual help-mate and someone who I can go out and do activities with.
Oh, by the island thing I was referring to online friends as well. I only have one real life friend that visits me about once every three months, but I spend a lot of time online talking to my friends and chatting on Discord servers. My parents and my two best friends are in my inner circle, I talk to all of them at least once a week and I visit my parents house once every two months now.
Thanks for explaining that. For now I am happy just to have online friends. If I meet someone and strike up a friendship then maybe I would see a friend in person, go out to lunch or for coffee, but I am very reticent to have anyone over to my house, and if you saw it you'd know why.
 
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Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Forever alone here. I doubt I'll ever find anyone to spend my life with.

My best friend however is part of the LDS church and personally believes in Taoism. It's very interesting to talk to him because of how syncretic and omnist his views have become. The guy I'm referring to is actually a member of these forums, and I met him on here. His name is @dannerz .
I'm married, but my best friend other than that is on these forums, too! Her name is @Trailblazer. You know her well. She replied to this post of yours, too. We have something in common.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
My best friend is Duane @Truthseeker who lives in Ohio. I have known him since we were both on Planet Baha'i together starting in 2013, and we have kept in close touch ever since. We had a lot in common such as having gotten married around the same year and having become Baha'is at about the same year. Now of course we no longer share being married since I am a widow.
Whoops, you beat me to it.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
I have already tried the only two Baha'i dating sites I know of but I heard tat Baha'is have a Baha'is singles group on Facebook and I have been trying to get onto Facebook for the last two days, but my account cannot be verified so I cannot get in. It is so frustrating! I have tried virtually everything, even setting up a new account with a different e-mail, but that didn't work either.
Sara was thinking of going on Facebook, but she has this thing against Mark Zuckerberg, who started Facebook. I agree that he seems to be more interested now in making money from his algorithms than serving the public, but that's not a good enough reason to not be on Facebook. It was such a long time ago that I got on Facebook that I think probably the procedure is different now for getting in, and I don't remember how I did it then either.
 
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