Your Reason for "God does not Exist".

[zenzero]

Friend chinu,

But never think that this is compleate or final, if you doing so, than you are helping your enemy (Mind).
I am saying this because few years later my views were also same like you.

Thank you!
Yes the mind here, hardly gets time as no-mind is timeless so there is a constant match going here with time and timelessness so when there is nothing much to do just watch this fight and enjoy!

Love & rgds

 

[chinu]

Yes the mind here, hardly gets time as no-mind is timeless so there is a constant match going here with time and timelessness so when there is nothing much to do just watch this fight and enjoy!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .......................................

That is why it is said that the Game of TIMELESSNESS is not so easy to play.

Zenzero ji, I remembered one famous Punjabi Quote on this written by: Hazrat baba bulle shah (A famous sufi dervesh of punjab), pasting here, I hope you will enjoy.

He who is stricken by Love
Sings and dances out of tune.

He who wears the garb of Love
Gets blessings from above.

Soon as he drinks from this cup
No questions and no answers remain.

He who is stricken by Love
Sings and dances out of tune.

He who has the Beloved in his heart,
He is fulfilled with his Love.
No need he has for formality,
He just enjoys his ecstasy.

He who is stricken by Love
Sings and dances out of tune.- Baba Bulle Shah.


Not me, Baba bulle Shah.

_/\_Your friend Chinu.

 

[horiturk]

Same reason I believe gnomes, centaurs, and ogres don't exist: lack of convincing evidence.

you have to admit it would be pretty sweet if they did exist

 

[waitasec]

Who is giving you these ideas ?

the idea of god came from a people who lacked knowledge in science.
there is no need to believe in a god today. however, science has shown us how little we know...but what we do know through science is; if there is a god, it cannot be a personal god it can't be a loving god or a god that cares about our death.

 

[Falvlun]

there is no need to believe in a god today. however, science has shown us how little we know...but what we do know through science is; if there is a god, it cannot be a personal god it can't be a loving god or a god that cares about our death.

Hmm. I don't think any of those things are proven. Perhaps God is all those, but simply not omnipotent. Or perhaps the theists do have it right, and God is loving, and this is truly the best possible way for him to go about it. Or perhaps he is loving, but not omnibenevolent, and this is what he personally feels is the best way to accomplish everything he wants to accomplish. There are many possbilities, and science has not proven that these possibilities are in fact impossible. Improbable, likely; hence my atheism. But impososible, no.

 

[waitasec]

Hmm. I don't think any of those things are proven.

what? that we live in a chaotic state?

Perhaps God is all those, but simply not omnipotent. Or perhaps the theists do have it right, and God is loving, and this is truly the best possible way for him to go about it. Or perhaps he is loving, but not omnibenevolent, and this is what he personally feels is the best way to accomplish everything he wants to accomplish. There are many possbilities, and science has not proven that these possibilities are in fact impossible. Improbable, likely; hence my atheism. But impososible, no.

improbable yes... why?
there is too much suffering for a omnibenevolent god.
we live in a chaotic state which points to a god that is not omniscient or omnipotent.
the idea of a god to make us better people is fine if those who believe stay out of my business. then i wouldn't be here debating his existence...

 

[Ben Masada]

There's no evidence for one. There isn't even a common definition for one.

-Religious creation myths have been debunked.
-Prayer has been shown to have no statistical effect.
-Evolution by natural selection explains how humans have developed from simple life.
-The universe is dangerous, violent, chaotic, neutral, and uncaring.
-Nature causes grievous suffering.
-Consciousness, morality, thought, and personality have been demonstrated to be emergent properties of the physical brain.
-Religious people cannot support their claims with evidence.

And neither can Atheists. They quote astrophysical phenomena in the hope to impress but get embarrassed as a little kid at the corner of the room as their concepts and theories need to change almost as often as we change our underwears.

 

[Penumbra]

And neither can Atheists. They quote astrophysical phenomena in the hope to impress but get embarrassed as a little kid at the corner of the room as their concepts and theories need to change almost as often as we change our underwears.

So don't address any of the points, just use an ad hominem.

 

[chinu]

if there is a god, it cannot be a personal god it can't be a loving god

Thats right, am agreed.
Definatly "He" (god) is like this

or a god that cares about our death.

Yes! Surely "He" (god) cares, But only for the death of our "Souls" not Bodies.

_/\_Chinu.

 

[waitasec]

Thats right, am agreed.
Definatly "He" (god) is like this



Yes! Surely "He" (god) cares, But only for the death of our "Souls" not Bodies.

_/\_Chinu.

thats a nice thought chinu.
would you say the death of our souls can only happen while our bodies are still alive as one chooses to live willingly ignorant?

 

[AntEmpire]

Ignostic:

A person who does not have an answer to the question of "is there is a god?" because he or she has not found a coherent definition of "god"
Until a coherent definition of god is found the ignostic can not answer the question.

 

[chinu]

would you say the death of our souls can only happen while our bodies are still alive as one chooses to live willingly ignorant?

No!

"How can the girl adjust at Husband's home, until she leaves the rememberence of Father's home."

In the above Quote:
Girl is ment by Soul,
Father's home is ment by World,
Husband's home is ment by Heaven.



Waitasec ji, Very nice to meet you.
_/\_Chinu.

 

[waitasec]

No!

"How can the girl adjust at Husband's home, until she leaves the rememberence of Father's home."

In the above Quote:
Girl is ment by Soul,
Father's home is ment by World,
Husband's home is ment by Heaven.



Waitasec ji, Very nice to meet you.
_/\_Chinu.

very nice to meet you too

but after all the cooking and cleaning in her fathers home, she's too tired to do the same at her husbands home and just wants to sleep...

 

[cottage]

the idea of god came from a people who lacked knowledge in science.
there is no need to believe in a god today. however, science has shown us how little we know...but what we do know through science is; if there is a god, it cannot be a personal god it can't be a loving god or a god that cares about our death.

With respect, science hasn't shown us those things you speak of - but logic has pointed up one of them. If there is a deity it will certainly be indifferent to suffering. Omni-benevolent it is not!

 

[cottage]

SOME belive : God Exist
SOME belive : God does not Exist


Please write one of your most attractive REASON which makes you belive that "GOD does not Exist".

A reason is not required to support the statement 'God does not exist.' The statement is self-explanatory and implies no contradiction.

 

[chinu]

A reason is not required to support the statement 'God does not exist.' The statement is self-explanatory and implies no contradiction.

Than why reply ? just think it in your own mind, and leave the post.
_/\_Chinu.

 

[micrurus]

the Bible, is my best arguement against the existence of God. (wel atleast against an abrahamic god)

 

[crocusj]

Absolutely no reason why a god should exist.

 

[cottage]

Than why reply ? just think it in your own mind, and leave the post.
_/\_Chinu.

Uh! The thread invites discussion of the statement 'God does not exist' and asks why people believe that to be the case. I have given you my answer, which is that the proposition is non-contradictory; in other words, a person does not need a reason to state, ie to believe, that God does not exist.

 

[chinu]

Uh! The thread invites discussion of the statement 'God does not exist' and asks why people believe that to be the case. I have given you my answer, which is that the proposition is non-contradictory; in other words, a person does not need a reason to state, ie to believe, that God does not exist.

It means you are discussing with the THREAD not forum members.
_/\_Chinu.