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Your Thoughts on the 5 ft tall man raging in the Bagel Shop

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Ask yourself this. Would a guy act like that if he were NOT hurt or bullied? Possibly, but given the fact that he is extremely short, I think the logical conclusion is that he has been bullied.
People act all kinds of ways for attention. You haven't produced any evidence that what he claims is true. No one cares if a guy is short, really. This isn't grade school.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
This is old news, but worth commenting on IMO. A 5 ft tall man lost his temper in the bagel shop about a month ago and raged about how women constantly reject him on dating sites because of his height, and have said that he should be "dead" because he is only five feet tall. Apparently, the incident started because people in the store were making fun of him about his height. Many people are laughing at this guy, but I'm not. I genuinely feel sorry for him, and he has probably been bullied his entire life because he lost the genetic lottery. The guy who was a foot taller than him and tackled him in the store is pure evil IMO. I certainly oppose his misogynistic rant. However, I can imagine it must be extremely difficult to never be taken seriously your whole life because of your short height. Notice how people laugh at him. If this guy were 6 foot+, people would in the store would respect him and would be scared if he behaved that way, but instead, he is laughed out of the store. Again, I absolutely oppose misogyny and angry behavior by men who are rejected by women. But that's not the point. The point is that our society is seriously effed up if we think it's OK to make fun of a guy who has likely faced a lifetime of frustration, rejection, and bullying because of his physical appearance.


You really should research things first. That guy makes all kind of garbage like that. He has his on YouTube channel with many videos on it and 8,038 subscribers. His name is Chris Morgan and probably makes good $$ doing that crap.

Chris Morgan
 

ameyAtmA

~ ~
Premium Member
Bullying isn't typically out in the open like this. Most bullies would prefer to take you behind the proverbial alley when nobody's looking, much less a camera rolling catching everything in the raw.
Bully is a strong word. What I really meant was mean behavior, not physical wrestling.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
This is old news, but worth commenting on IMO. A 5 ft tall man lost his temper in the bagel shop about a month ago and raged about how women constantly reject him on dating sites because of his height, and have said that he should be "dead" because he is only five feet tall. Apparently, the incident started because people in the store were making fun of him about his height. Many people are laughing at this guy, but I'm not. I genuinely feel sorry for him, and he has probably been bullied his entire life because he lost the genetic lottery. The guy who was a foot taller than him and tackled him in the store is pure evil IMO. I certainly oppose his misogynistic rant. However, I can imagine it must be extremely difficult to never be taken seriously your whole life because of your short height. Notice how people laugh at him. If this guy were 6 foot+, people would in the store would respect him and would be scared if he behaved that way, but instead, he is laughed out of the store. Again, I absolutely oppose misogyny and angry behavior by men who are rejected by women. But that's not the point.

The point is that our society is seriously effed up if we think it's OK to make fun of a guy who has likely faced a lifetime of frustration, rejection, and bullying because of his physical appearance.


If he'd gone to a doctor as a young teen, he might have grown to be 5'6".. Or, he could have become a jockey where his size would have been a huge asset.. and women love jockeys.

Remember when Trump mocked the reporter with disabilities?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
This is old news, but worth commenting on IMO. A 5 ft tall man lost his temper in the bagel shop about a month ago and raged about how women constantly reject him on dating sites because of his height, and have said that he should be "dead" because he is only five feet tall. Apparently, the incident started because people in the store were making fun of him about his height. Many people are laughing at this guy, but I'm not. I genuinely feel sorry for him, and he has probably been bullied his entire life because he lost the genetic lottery. The guy who was a foot taller than him and tackled him in the store is pure evil IMO. I certainly oppose his misogynistic rant. However, I can imagine it must be extremely difficult to never be taken seriously your whole life because of your short height. Notice how people laugh at him. If this guy were 6 foot+, people would in the store would respect him and would be scared if he behaved that way, but instead, he is laughed out of the store. Again, I absolutely oppose misogyny and angry behavior by men who are rejected by women. But that's not the point. The point is that our society is seriously effed up if we think it's OK to make fun of a guy who has likely faced a lifetime of frustration, rejection, and bullying because of his physical appearance.


Guy has a mouth. That is his problem not being short. He is flipping out in public telling other people to shut up so he can rant about something that happened outside the shop. He was stepping up to people provoking and challenging them to fights. Someone answered his challenge.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
This is old news, but worth commenting on IMO. A 5 ft tall man lost his temper in the bagel shop about a month ago and raged about how women constantly reject him on dating sites because of his height, and have said that he should be "dead" because he is only five feet tall. Apparently, the incident started because people in the store were making fun of him about his height. Many people are laughing at this guy, but I'm not. I genuinely feel sorry for him, and he has probably been bullied his entire life because he lost the genetic lottery. The guy who was a foot taller than him and tackled him in the store is pure evil IMO. I certainly oppose his misogynistic rant. However, I can imagine it must be extremely difficult to never be taken seriously your whole life because of your short height. Notice how people laugh at him. If this guy were 6 foot+, people would in the store would respect him and would be scared if he behaved that way, but instead, he is laughed out of the store. Again, I absolutely oppose misogyny and angry behavior by men who are rejected by women. But that's not the point. The point is that our society is seriously effed up if we think it's OK to make fun of a guy who has likely faced a lifetime of frustration, rejection, and bullying because of his physical appearance.

If he thinks about it, he'll realise how l lucky he is.
No reasonable decent person (of any height) would want to go dating with anybody so shallow as to laugh at a short man, or any other human condition.

The world is full of nasty people and anything which helps us to pick 'em out quickly can be a benefit to us, if only we can latch on to that kind of positive mindset.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I make fun of short guys.
But only if we're friends.
And they make fun of my shortcomings too.
It's a very manly way.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
People act all kinds of ways for attention. You haven't produced any evidence that what he claims is true. No one cares if a guy is short, really. This isn't grade school.

Watch the video. It's obvious. People all around are laughing at him, and one guy tackles him to the ground. No one takes his anger seriously because he is short. If he were 6'4" 240 lbs and yelling, I can guarantee that very few people would be laughing at him or trying to tackle him to the ground. If he were tall and strong, people would be taking him seriously. But no one takes him seriously because he is short.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
You really should research things first. That guy makes all kind of garbage like that. He has his on YouTube channel with many videos on it and 8,038 subscribers. His name is Chris Morgan and probably makes good $$ doing that crap.

Chris Morgan

His videos are not monetized, so he is not making any money. Clearly, he has some mental issues, but has it ever occurred to you that his issues may be a result of a lifetime of constant bullying due to his short height? Also, in many instances, he makes videos to illustrate the constant bullying he faces due to his height. I think he makes a good point in his video at 7-11. The man at the counter asked him how tall he was. He responded by asking the man (who happened to be black) how he would feel if someone asked him what country he came from. I think it was a teachable moment and he educated the man at the counter about respecting all people. Many (though not all) of the people he yells at, frankly, deserve to be yelled at. Maybe they'll learn something.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
There are good MRAs, and then there are the incels. This guy is an incel.

Why do you assume that all involuntarily celibate men are bad people? Many of them have simply lost the genetic lottery. For instance, a man with Down Syndrome or Tourette's Syndrome will likely have sexual desires but never have the opportunity to have sex. Most involuntarily celibate men are good men who have simply lost the genetic lottery. The ones who become radical often do so after facing a lifetime of bullying.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Watch the video. It's obvious. People all around are laughing at him, and one guy tackles him to the ground. No one takes his anger seriously because he is short. If he were 6'4" 240 lbs and yelling, I can guarantee that very few people would be laughing at him or trying to tackle him to the ground. If he were tall and strong, people would be taking him seriously. But no one takes him seriously because he is short.
Dude, you're making a fool of yourself by continuing to defend this guy. But be my guest.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
Dude, you're making a fool of yourself by continuing to defend this guy. But be my guest.

I always defend people who are bullied and oppressed. He is 4'11". You're a fool if you think people don't treat him differently because of his height. If he were a 6'2 black Muslim guy raging about "white privilege", you'd probably call him a hero.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Why do you assume that all involuntarily celibate men are bad people? Many of them have simply lost the genetic lottery. For instance, a man with Down Syndrome or Tourette's Syndrome will likely have sexual desires but never have the opportunity to have sex. Most involuntarily celibate men are good men who have simply lost the genetic lottery. The ones who become radical often do so after facing a lifetime of bullying.
People with Down's Syndrome often couple with others who have it.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Why do you assume that all involuntarily celibate men are bad people? Many of them have simply lost the genetic lottery. For instance, a man with Down Syndrome or Tourette's Syndrome will likely have sexual desires but never have the opportunity to have sex. Most involuntarily celibate men are good men who have simply lost the genetic lottery. The ones who become radical often do so after facing a lifetime of bullying.
There's a difference between not getting a girlfriend and being an "incel" per se. I was born without a left ear and to date have only had one online girlfriend. The difference between me and the incel community is, I'm not bitter and angry about my relatively uneventful dating history. In some ways, me being born without a left ear is a great thing--I automatically can filter out any women who would be superficially attracted to me. Any woman who is attracted to me is by definition attracted to me based on my personality and how I conduct myself as a human being, regardless of my outward appearance. I know I get all sorts of looks by random passersby about my (lack of a) left ear. When I was a child, my parents took me to a specialist to get a prosthetic left ear made. I eventually stopped wearing it because my left ear changed its outward shape enough to where the prosthetic would no longer stick on (it stuck on via a quick-setting glue), and you know what? By the time I hit late middle school, I was comfortable enough in my own skin to accept that, yes, I don't have a left ear. To this day I like to make jokes about my left ear because it's a good conversation-starter and it makes other people feel less awkward about my condition. I always tell people I got it in 'Nam, or on the beaches of Normandy, or while crusading in the Holy Land.

I trust that eventually, God willing, I'll find the right woman who will accept me and all my (physical and otherwise) defects, just as I will accept her and all her possible faults. Until that time comes, I work on improving myself, being a productive member of my community and a worthy team player at my job. This guy just chooses to blame everyone else for his own shortcomings and refuses to do any introspection about the fact that maybe women don't want to date him because he's filled with toxic resentment towards others and a sense of entitlement.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
There's a difference between not getting a girlfriend and being an "incel" per se. I was born without a left ear and to date have only had one online girlfriend. The difference between me and the incel community is, I'm not bitter and angry about my relatively uneventful dating history. In some ways, me being born without a left ear is a great thing--I automatically can filter out any women who would be superficially attracted to me. Any woman who is attracted to me is by definition attracted to me based on my personality and how I conduct myself as a human being, regardless of my outward appearance. I know I get all sorts of looks by random passersby about my (lack of a) left ear. When I was a child, my parents took me to a specialist to get a prosthetic left ear made. I eventually stopped wearing it because my left ear changed its outward shape enough to where the prosthetic would no longer stick on (it stuck on via a quick-setting glue), and you know what? By the time I hit late middle school, I was comfortable enough in my own skin to accept that, yes, I don't have a left ear. To this day I like to make jokes about my left ear because it's a good conversation-starter and it makes other people feel less awkward about my condition. I always tell people I got it in 'Nam, or on the beaches of Normandy, or while crusading in the Holy Land.

I trust that eventually, God willing, I'll find the right woman who will accept me and all my (physical and otherwise) defects, just as I will accept her and all her possible faults. Until that time comes, I work on improving myself, being a productive member of my community and a worthy team player at my job. This guy just chooses to blame everyone else for his own shortcomings and refuses to do any introspection about the fact that maybe women don't want to date him because he's filled with toxic resentment towards others and a sense of entitlement.

This is a thoughtful response, thanks. However, I would not assume that the guy is filled with "toxic resentment", he may have been bullied to an extreme degree. Of course, it is hard to know. I do think he had every right to get angry if people were mocking him because of his height.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I always defend people who are bullied and oppressed. He is 4'11". You're a fool if you think people don't treat him differently because of his height. If he were a 6'2 black Muslim guy raging about "white privilege", you'd probably call him a hero.
You have no evidence that he was "bullied" or "oppressed". You also have been presented with a lot of evidence that he makes scenes like these frequently and is interested in attention. And, no - I wouldn't automatically believe him if he was black. What a stupid assumption. No idea why you would think that. I tend to take these episodes with a grain of salt. People lie and misrepresent these videos all the time.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
His videos are not monetized, so he is not making any money. Clearly, he has some mental issues, but has it ever occurred to you that his issues may be a result of a lifetime of constant bullying due to his short height? Also, in many instances, he makes videos to illustrate the constant bullying he faces due to his height. I think he makes a good point in his video at 7-11. The man at the counter asked him how tall he was. He responded by asking the man (who happened to be black) how he would feel if someone asked him what country he came from. I think it was a teachable moment and he educated the man at the counter about respecting all people. Many (though not all) of the people he yells at, frankly, deserve to be yelled at. Maybe they'll learn something.

Clearly there are people shorter than him. Why isn't the internet full of videos from them? That guy makes those videos to get views which he gets thousands/tens of thousands of views. He also has ads in them which =$$.
You don't find it odd that he is always being filmed during these encounters and uses that feed on his YouTube account? Do you think he gets the feed from strangers/people he doesn't know?
 
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