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You're a Socialist* (*almost certainly)
- Thread starter icehorse
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No, you're a socialist!
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
@Nowhere Man will like this. 
Nimos
Well-Known Member
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
What do you do when Socialist organizations accuse you of not being a socialist? RIP Bernie.
I'm not sure that's why Bernie bowed out, is it?
It takes one to know one - you socialist.
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
People in the Democratic Socialists of America, the Socialist Worker's Party, and the Socialist Party USA have argued that Bernie is not a socialist.
Secret Chief
Very strong language
49 minutes?! Are you mad?! Actually, I've started watching it and it seems really interesting to me so I will be watching it. It seems particularly interesting to me as a non-American to see explained why so many Americans view left wing politics as being so anathema.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Oh boy! A socialism thread!!! Yeaaaa!!!! Woo hoo!!!@Nowhere Man will like this.
Just remember, gay used to mean happy!
Words change definition over the times to accommodate new circumstances and conditions. Take that you pinko commie socialists!
Heyo
Veteran Member
I usually like what Richard Wolff has to say but he got some details wrong in this one. E.g. he says that Marx and Engels were "socialists" and communists only came up in the 1920s. It's the other way around, the "Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei" was penned by Marx and Engels in 1848. The Communist Manifesto - Wikipedia
Secret Chief
Very strong language
That sounds like what is known as a rookie error!
Nimos
Well-Known Member
It is a very good lecture in my opinion... Socialism is so misunderstood, which is a bit sad
Heyo
Veteran Member
Unlikely for an expert like Wolff. (Although he is an expert on economic theory, not history.)
But then again I had an otherwise brilliant prof who, in lectures, talked A, wrote B, meant C, calculated D and E would have been right. The typical confused professor.
You red blanket baby!
You "heighten the contradictions" My buddies in the Politbureau and I work on what happens next, Comrade.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
But anyway, did you enjoy the song?
Friend of Mara
Active Member
Bruh. I'm not a socalist. I'm an anarco leftist.
Secret Chief
Very strong language
I've watched the lecture; really interesting.
"Marx and Engels themselves didn’t consistently or clearly differentiate communism from socialism, which helped ensure lasting confusion between the two terms."
- https://www.history.com/news/socialism-communism-differences
I read some say socialism is but a staging post between capitalism and communism, whilst others would say that communism is but one expression of a socialist society (albeit at the "extreme" - for want of a better word - end of the spectrum).