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Evolution theory turns colleges into hellholes of depression

seb

Member
i am not talking about having sex wit a partner you love: i am talking about all these young girls in make up, having random partners in the same night; and I used to talk to them in clubs, or on the street, explaining to them "lust is caused by fear of growing old" and i told them "man will dress you up in white clothes, as death, and drug you to house of lord; because all men are scared" and some girls, simple undeducated girls I spoke to, they understood, then went home as a mess, but they came back next morning smiling to me; because they found peace in their heart; and they did change their behaviour (because they found the answer)

so I do care, about these undeducated sheep (who some people refer to as sluts) who should be brought back to the church; and I can change every single of them; but I am alone, and there are milions of them
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
"lust is caused by fear of growing old"
No it's not. It can, but growing old does not mean our libidos shut down. The libido of a woman actually tends to get stronger after menopause.
i am talking about all these young girls in make up, having random partners in the same night
Men do this as well.
man will dress you up in white clothes, as death, and drug you to house of lord; because all men are scared"
Just because you think everyone is afraid of death, doesn't mean everyone is.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Dear Mohammad, I think that God/Allah did use the process of evolution in His creation of non-human species. However, I believe that Adam and Eve were the first living beings on Earth to have souls, which makes us humans very unique and special when compared to other living beings who lack a soul. I think evolution should be taught as a theory in explaining how non-human life formed. However, I doubt that evolution applies to us humans who all have souls and are descendants of Adam and Eve who were formed by God on a recreated Earth 6,000 years ago.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
However, I doubt that evolution applies to us humans who all have souls and are descendants of Adam and Eve who were formed by God on a recreated Earth 6,000 years ago.
We are not exact replicas of our parents, who are not exact replicas of their parents. You can also chart how humans have been changing over years, such as how we have been getting gradually taller over the centuries. This indicates we are not exempt from evolution.
 

seb

Member
i will tell you brothers how it is to be God; i have been working in care homes in UK for last 10 years, looking after elderly people; and i will explain to you something: many times I saw it: the old man gets worse, his tongue is too week and he cannot bite any more; his son comes, and I say "your father doesnt bite anymore; he needs a drip; he needs nutrition" and his son says "he doesn't bite? he had enough let him die" and I say "but with drip your father can live really long; without drip he will die soon, and he will die suffering malnutrition and dihaidration" and his son says rising his voice "I am his son, I said no drip" and then family doctors come round, and I say "I know he doesnt bite anymore, but he still needs food; he needs a drip" and doctor snaps 'I am the doctor, you are just care assistant" So for few days we, care assistants, put food on a plate in front of him; his body is raving for food, but he cannot bite; his tongue is too week" I give him a blanket, and hugg him, so he can feel a little bit better before he dies

there was a poet name Dylan; he was one of them, one of people who bite; his father was on a deathbed in hospital, and he would not open his mouth to bite; instead of asking to give his father a drip, he got angry and wrote a poem; he read this poem to his own father, who was passing away (instead of giving him food via syringe); you can do it to your own father: read it to him when he is passing away, and refusing to bite:

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


and that is how God feels every single day: like this old man sitting in the chair, chosing to rather die then bite, and his son running around the planet earth "I say there is no God; and if there is why he wont punish me for what I say or do? why he wont struck me with a thunder? I tell you: there is no good, because he doesn't bite"

the most ironic thing is that God can do everything, he has all the powers (he is not like this old man in a nursing home) but he choses to do nothing; because he knows that to punish, and to bite, is not a right thing to do; but he does feel the pain watching this place, and I feel his pain: because I believe
 

seb

Member
the grass, the snake, the zebra; all life will go back to God one day; and all life on planet earth will go back to God; you better build your rocket to save your skin and go from here as quick as possible please; the chicken you take the life of, the grass you stamp on, the monkeys who did not improve as quickly as you did; they will all come back to me and my father, and we will all be one again; all life will go back to God

you have a soul? you sure? master race of this planet? the last step of evolution?
 

seb

Member
the only prophet who was right was Buddha; he got everything spot on, but one thing: his 4 truths were wrong; he should have said

life is full of lust
lust is called by being scared of death and growing all
this fear can ve overcome

the rest was spot on: nirvana, reincarnation, etc; Mathew and John did something really wicked with Jesus teaching; and I feel so bad, because I know what Jesus really said, and I cannot prove that these two man lied; last time I tried to preach people on streets I got imprisoned in psychatric hospital; it is hard to convience people I am right not the book

because Bible is not free of mistakes; sad
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
i will tell you brothers how it is to be God; i have been working in care homes in UK for last 10 years, looking after elderly people; and i will explain to you something: many times I saw it: the old man gets worse, his tongue is too week and he cannot bite any more; his son comes, and I say "your father doesnt bite anymore; he needs a drip; he needs nutrition" and his son says "he doesn't bite? he had enough let him die" and I say "but with drip your father can live really long; without drip he will die soon, and he will die suffering malnutrition and dihaidration" and his son says rising his voice "I am his son, I said no drip" and then family doctors come round, and I say "I know he doesnt bite anymore, but he still needs food; he needs a drip" and doctor snaps 'I am the doctor, you are just care assistant" So for few days we, care assistants, put food on a plate in front of him; his body is raving for food, but he cannot bite; his tongue is too week" I give him a blanket, and hugg him, so he can feel a little bit better before he dies

there was a poet name Dylan; he was one of them, one of people who bite; his father was on a deathbed in hospital, and he would not open his mouth to bite; instead of asking to give his father a drip, he got angry and wrote a poem; he read this poem to his own father, who was passing away (instead of giving him food via syringe); you can do it to your own father: read it to him when he is passing away, and refusing to bite:

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


and that is how God feels every single day: like this old man sitting in the chair, chosing to rather die then bite, and his son running around the planet earth "I say there is no God; and if there is why he wont punish me for what I say or do? why he wont struck me with a thunder? I tell you: there is no good, because he doesn't bite"

the most ironic thing is that God can do everything, he has all the powers (he is not like this old man in a nursing home) but he choses to do nothing; because he knows that to punish, and to bite, is not a right thing to do; but he does feel the pain watching this place, and I feel his pain: because I believe
Maybe this son had spoken to his father before and his father had told him he didn't want to be kept alive by machines and so the son was fulfilling his father's wishes.
I know my parents and my spouse have indicated to me (and I to them) what kind of end-of-life care they would like to receive and I will respect their wishes.
 

seb

Member
man, having a drip in your arm providing you with food is not a "machine"; what happens is, suddenly your tongue is weak, and what then? you lose your human rights to food only because you cannot speak and you cannot bite; and most of these elderly they last up to week: imagine not being able to chew, and left for seven days, if you are strong

and I look into their eyes and I see what they are going through, and there is nothing I can do except of having an argument with family or doctor; it is not even an argument; I say "everyone has right to food" and they just bark, intimidate me, etc; it is one way conversation really
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Dear Mohammad, I think that God/Allah did use the process of evolution in His creation of non-human species. However, I believe that Adam and Eve were the first living beings on Earth to have souls, which makes us humans very unique and special when compared to other living beings who lack a soul. I think evolution should be taught as a theory in explaining how non-human life formed. However, I doubt that evolution applies to us humans who all have souls and are descendants of Adam and Eve who were formed by God on a recreated Earth 6,000 years ago.


we are the only species in millions on Earth able to ask these questions, i.e. at the very least, our sentience, soul, is not the sort of think 'evolution' tends to achieve,

We are the only means we know of, by which the universe can be appreciated from within. I don't think that's coincidence
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
man, having a drip in your arm providing you with food is not a "machine"; what happens is, suddenly your tongue is weak, and what then? you lose your human rights to food only because you cannot speak and you cannot bite; and most of these elderly they last up to week: imagine not being able to chew, and left for seven days, if you are strong

and I look into their eyes and I see what they are going through, and there is nothing I can do except of having an argument with family or doctor; it is not even an argument; I say "everyone has right to food" and they just bark, intimidate me, etc; it is one way conversation really
An IV drip is attached to a machine. If it was feeding him and he could not feed himself, he was indeed being kept alive with a machine.

My point was that you have no idea what that person has said to family members about what kind of care they wish to receive. You make the son out to be the bad guy without knowing whether he is or not. At the end of his life, my father didn't want to be resuscitated and when it came to the point where that was a possibility, I had to tell the doctors not to resuscitate, despite my own feelings about it.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
St John the Baptist used to take people to the river bank (two thousand years ago) and say: "come crocodiles, you are all scared of growing old and of death" and if people dealt with their fear of death properly, they would come out of the river changed; and they would know which dinosaurs they are "believers or atheist"

The received wisdom is that knowledge of good an evil is the original sin, as you know, and as is right.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
You put stones together with anger as an artefact. Or together with a process like running water. It is completely delusional, very obviously you only understand objectivity, and this is why you are saying anger is fact, because you have no clue whatsoever how forming an opinion works about what is good, loving and beautiful.

Everybody who knows how subjectivity works knows that what I say is correct. And those who don't know they are part of the problem. One can very easily know how subjectivity works, there is no legitemate excuse to not know, because common discourse is plain and available to all. And the structure in common discourse is unmistakenbly that anger is agency of a decision.

Also everybody can easily know that what you say is probably wrong, by that you do not reason openly, you just pontificate with pseudoscientific authority. You have never addressed how you are going to make the concept of choosing work without the existence of the agency in a decision regarded as a matter of opinion. That is because it cannot be done.

If one reasons openly and considers which is better, to have anger as fact, or to have it as opinion, then it is very obvious that emotions have to do with subjectivity, and that obviously anger belongs to the opinion side of things, not the fact side of things.

Still one can see how incredibly feisty evolutionists are in attacking subjectivity wholesale. That is all the evidence anybody responsible for college policy needs in dealing with the depression epidemic in their college. They need to accept a creationist study course which deals with how things are chosen in the universe, and they need to suppress social darwinism more. It is already accepted at colleges that a scientist cannot present statements about what is good and evil as if it was a fact, because it counts as pseudoscience. That rule needs to be applied more vigorously to include that one cannot present what is loving and hateful, or angry, as fact, because it is the same things as presenting what is good and evil as fact. Good and evil are generally derived from what is identified as loving and hateful. Obviously good and evil apply to the agency of a decision, and so does love and hate apply to the agency of a decision as well. All these social darwinist evolutionists need to be reprimanded, so to gain an environment where subjectivity is allowed, where objectivity does not push subjectivity aside, but that they are both accepted as valid, each in their own right. That the pseudoscientific fact about what anger is, does not push aside the opinion on what anger is, by expression of emotion with free will.

You put stones as something that can have an experience, not I. You provided the example not I. I am just point out your error in your vain attempt at recovering your argument. Vain since you make more errors in attempting to cover previous errors. I understand both subjectivity and objectivity. You do not seem to understand stones does not have experiences since you have no idea what experience means.

Ad populum argument by invoke "everyone" when in fact no one here agrees not have you provide a single expert. in anything, supporting your views. This point of your argument is fallacious.

More ad populum fallacies

I attack your argument that evolution causes depression in collage. I am not attacking subjectivity, just your unsubstantiated arguments. You lack developed reading comprehension skills. If anger can be measured it is no pseudo-science, it is proper research which have been published. Where as you have provided no study, no research, nothing but empty claims.

Again you put stones as something which can have an experience not I, blatantly lying about your own comments and mine again. Good and evil are perspectives towards an event, person or view. Considering religion has endorsed immoral concepts such as slavery religion has no moral high ground. Good and evil are not based on love or hate. People still love their family members that have commit crimes people have considered as evil. Any prisoner that still has a marriage or relationship with anyone outside the prison system proves your point wrong. People also hate others which have committed no crime or evil acts. For example I hate Milan Lucic, hockey player, yet he committed no crime or evil act. Your false comparison has been refuted.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
I am not attacking subjectivity,

You are replacing subjectivity with objectivity in making "anger" an issue of fact instead of opinion. That is attacking subjectivity.

You put anger together with stones and running water, as all issues of objective fact.

Now you make love and hate unrelated to good and evil....come on....you are just fantasizing stuff while you write it. There isn't actually any proper scientific authority to anything what you are saying, that is just pretense of scientific authority.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
we are the only species in millions on Earth able to ask these questions, i.e. at the very least, our sentience, soul, is not the sort of think 'evolution' tends to achieve,
And what of Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalis and Homo floresiensis? Those are just three off the top of my head.
 

seb

Member
man have apple in their throat, and snake between their legs; if they get scared of death and start pleasuring (they let their penis in their heart) they will not be reborn as a man; if they let snake in heart they will grow breast, and be reborn as women; that is how reincarnation works
 

Shad

Veteran Member
You are replacing subjectivity with objectivity in making "anger" an issue of fact instead of opinion. That is attacking subjectivity.

You put anger together with stones and running water, as all issues of objective fact.

Now you make love and hate unrelated to good and evil....come on....you are just fantasizing stuff while you write it. There isn't actually any proper scientific authority to anything what you are saying, that is just pretense of scientific authority.

Since we can measure anger and observe it is objective fact people have emotions. You fail to link the view on anger with stones or water, non-sequitur. I said good and evil are perspectives so are subjective. I already linked studies proving my point while you have linked nothing. Even what you linked does not even support your views since you do not read your own sources or you are incapable of understanding your sources. Come back with evidence if you are going to complain about sources supporting an opposing view to your own. Otherwise all you are provide is unsubstantiated statements which I can freely dismiss.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
man have apple in their throat, and snake between their legs; if they get scared of death and start pleasuring (they let their penis in their heart) they will not be reborn as a man; if they let snake in heart they will grow breast, and be reborn as women; that is how reincarnation works

Reborn as women because they let their penis in their heart?

What?

Ciao

- viole
 
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