What has gold to do with religion?!

[amorphous_constellation]

As mentioned above: it symbolizes the Sun, because it's precious, sparkly and stays the same for ever.

That makes sense. Never made that connection before.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

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Namaste,

For Indian Hindus, Gold signifies many things, Many have said the Sun is symbolized, also other great example given already. Also the temple in question being of Mahalakshmi Gold is a symbol of wealth and prosperity. Indians culturally have always been fond of Gold and other precious materials (google Kohinoor) because we have had so much of these materials in the past it makes itself prevelent into all aspects of life. Gold is also a part of one of our 4 Purushastras which is Artha (Wealth, Prosperity, Success), prior to Money ones wealth was considered the Gold/Diamonds ect one had, therefore donations to temples were largely Gold (being the most abundant in general population) and this tradition has carried on. I do not agree that considering the economic situation currently in India that they should use so much Gold to Temples.

Therefore In Hinduism Gold is actually a part of the religion.

Dhanyavad

 

[Tumah]

Having gold is yearning for richness and being rich:

"Rich people are greedy and shallow. They get rich by taking advantage of others. They are miserly and selfish. Money is their god. They don't really care about the poor or less fortunate. "
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mind-over-money/201003/rich-people-are-greedy​

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What has gold to do with religion?

Please.
Regards.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

paarsurrey said: ↑
Please quote from Buddha in this connection.

Or please quote from Krishna in this connection.
Anybody please.
Regards

You really shouldn't start a thread if at the end you'll simply close your ears and copy past "quote please, regards".
It's clear that you do not wish to discuss it in any way..let's be honest you don't.
Still you'll come post something that will engage people in a discussion and then without even attempting to understand a smidgen of it, all you'll do is copy paste "quote please, regards".
Trolling isn't discussion dear.

 

[Tumah]

You really shouldn't start a thread if at the end you'll simply close your ears and copy past "quote please, regards".
It's clear that you do not wish to discuss it in any way..let's be honest you don't.
Still you'll come post something that will engage people in a discussion and then without even attempting to understand a smidgen of it, all you'll do is copy paste "quote please, regards".
Trolling isn't discussion dear.

This is paar for the course.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

So why use gold for a deity? This must offend her. Right? Please
Regards

Why would gold offend a deity?
It's benefits are beyond that. Eating with golden spoons and drinking the milk that I'd used to wash golden idols of deities is said to contain tiny portion of gold, eroded very very slightly due to the effects of lactic acid.
Drinking it said to provide important minerals for the body.
The tradition is older than Vedic traditions even.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Why would gold offend a deity?

He's assuming other religions' gods are starch-arsed misers because his god is. In other words he's super-imposing Allah onto other peoples' gods.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

This is paar for the course.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

He's assuming other religions' gods are starch-arsed misers because his god is. In other words he's super-imposing Allah onto other peoples' gods.

I should have known.

 

[paarsurrey]

As almost everyone on this thread has already said, gold has been linked to solar deities throughout the world and time. Much like silver has associations with lunar deities. (Though I do not know if the latter association is as widespread as the former in the world.)

Aside from that, a LOT of cultures have placed a high value on gold. With that high value, it tends to get associated with other things a society finds important. In America we talk about something being the "gold standard", meaning it is the best of its kind. Gold gets associated with power and greatness, secular and divine. Yes, you will see statues of the Buddha adorned with gold leaf. If the Buddha is the most precious and greatest man to have ever lived, it is not strange that He would be depicted in the most beautiful and precious manner.

Did Buddha make any statue of gold or taught to make statue of him with gold. The man who wore rugs cannot support such things. It is against his character. It is the Buddhist corrupt clergy who have invented such measures in his name. Buddah gave no such teachings. Kindly quote from him if he ever supported such thing. Please
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Namaste,

For Indian Hindus, Gold signifies many things, Many have said the Sun is symbolized, also other great example given already. Also the temple in question being of Mahalakshmi Gold is a symbol of wealth and prosperity. Indians culturally have always been fond of Gold and other precious materials (google Kohinoor) because we have had so much of these materials in the past it makes itself prevelent into all aspects of life. Gold is also a part of one of our 4 Purushastras which is Artha (Wealth, Prosperity, Success), prior to Money ones wealth was considered the Gold/Diamonds ect one had, therefore donations to temples were largely Gold (being the most abundant in general population) and this tradition has carried on. I do not agree that considering the economic situation currently in India that they should use so much Gold to Temples.

Therefore In Hinduism Gold is actually a part of the religion.

Dhanyavad

Please quote from Krishna where in Bhagvad Gita he praised gold and make statues of gold. It is the corrupt clergy who always do such things using the label of religion.
Regards

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Did Buddha make any statue of gold or taught to make statue of him with gold. The man who wore rugs cannot support such things. It is against his character. It is the Buddhist corrupt clergy who have invented such measures in his name. Buddah gave no such teachings. Kindly quote from him if he ever supported such thing. Please
Regards

Please quote which buddhist texts forbid veneration of Buddha with gold please.
Please quote the buddhist texts where he made you the leader of his teachings.
(Do show the letter signed by the Buddha that authenticates it)
Regards

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Please quote from Krishna where in Bhagvad Gita he praised gold and make statues of gold. It is the corrupt clergy who always do such things using the label of religion.
Regards

You really start forums on facebook. Somethings that are to be said to you are illegal here.

 

[निताइ dasa]

Please quote from Krishna where in Bhagvad Gita he praised gold and make statues of gold.

Lord Krsna says that it is only we humans that give worth to gold. A wise person see no difference between Gold and Stone, so what is the matter if temples are made out of gold instead of stone? In-fact, if gold, is used in the service of the Lord (and attracts people to come to the temple and worship) then I say, such a use is blessed! How can you assume that whomever built this temple is "corrupt?". If I truly loved someone, I would want His/Her house to be the most splendid and beautiful. We worship according to our capacity. I do admit, I'm not that rich, but I try to decorate my deities and place of worship,with the best items. It is not a show of greed, or pride but rather I do it out of my gratitude and love for God. The Lord only sees what is in the heart.

In Gita 6.8, Sri Krsna says:

jñāna-vijñāna-tṛptātmā
kūṭa-stho vijitendriyaḥ
yukta ity ucyate yogī
sama-loṣṭrāśma-kāñcana

"A person is said to be established in self-realization and is called a yogi when he is fully satisfied by virtue of acquired knowledge and realization. Such a person is situated in transcendence and is self-controlled. He sees everything—whether it be pebbles, stones or gold—as the same."

 

[sayak83]

Please quote from Krishna where in Bhagvad Gita he praised gold and make statues of gold. It is the corrupt clergy who always do such things using the label of religion.
Regards

Absolutely ridiculous. Gold is one of the best metals to plate or filigree metal statues and surfaces with and hence its done. You have been told this again and again and you still repeat yourself. Its absolutely fine in using gold for plating, decoration or ornamentation purposes in temples or in daily life if you want to. Its not exorbitantly costly at all to do this relative to all the costs associated with buying land, building a temple-building etc. in the first place (unless you want to cover the entire temple with gold..that is ostentatious.) Your objection is idiosyncratic and we do not care what your holy book says in any way shape or form in this matter.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

What has gold to do with religion?!

No founder of a revealed religion did say any such things. It is the corrupt narrators/scribes/clergy who adopt such measures to lead the people astray from the core of religion which consist of guidance in the ethical, moral and spiritual realms.
Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism would support such measures as it suits them that people become mislead from religion and become non-believers.
It also happened with Judaism people, they made a golden calf in the absence of Moses. Right? Please

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[The Emperor of Mankind]

No founder of a revealed religion did say any such things.

No founder of any revealed religion used the internet either.

It also happened with Judaism people, they made a golden calf in the absence of Moses. Right? Please

And you've just got to drag the Jews into it somehow, don't you?

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
It also happened with Judaism people, they made a "golden calf" in the absence of Moses. Right? Please

And you've just got to drag the Jews into it somehow, don't you?

The truthful word of G-d mention it to illustrate this point:

[20:86] God said, ‘We have tried thy people in thy absence, and the Samiri has led them astray.’
[20:87] So Moses returned to his people indignant and sad. He said, ‘O my people, did not your Lord promise you a gracious promise? Did, then, the appointed time appear too long to you, or did you desire that wrath should descend upon you from your Lord, that you brokeyour promise to me?’
[20:88] They said, ‘We have not broken our promise to thee of our own accord; but we were laden with loads of people’s ornaments and we threw them away, and likewise did the Samiri cast.’
[20:89] Then he produced for them a calf — an image producing a lowing sound. And they said, ‘This is your God, and the God of Moses.’ So he gave up the religion of Moses.
[20:90] Could they not see that it returned to them no answer, and had no power to do them either harm or good?
[20:91] And Aaron had said to them before this, ‘O my people, you have only been tried by means of it (the calf). And surely, the Gracious God is your Lord; so follow me and obey my command.’
[20:92] They replied, ‘We shall not cease to worship it until Moses return to us.’
[20:93] Moses said, “O Aaron, what hindered thee, when thou didst see them gone astray,
[20:94] ‘From following me? Hast thou then disobeyed my command?’
[20:95] He answered, “O son of my mother seize me not by my beard, nor by the hair of my head. I feared lest thou shouldst say, ‘Thou hast caused a division among the children of Israel, and didst not wait for my word.’”
[20:96] Moses said, ‘And what hast thou to say, O Samiri?’
[20:97] He said, ‘I perceived what they perceived not. I only partly received the impress of the Messenger, but that too I cast away. Thus it is that my mind commended to me.’
[20:98] Moses said, “Go away. It shall be thine to say throughout thy life, ‘Touch me not;’ and there is a promise of punishment for thee which shall not fail to be fulfilled about thee. Now look at thy god of which thou hast become a devoted worshipper. We will certainly burn it and then scatter it away into the sea.”
[20:99] Your God is only Allah, beside Whom there is no God. He embraces all things in hisknowledge.
[20:100] Thus do We relate to thee the tidings of what has happened before. And We have given thee from Us a Reminder.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=20&verse=97​

See how they corrupt the revealed religion. Likewise they corrupted the revealed religions of Krishna and Buddha. Please
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[The Emperor of Mankind]

See how they corrupt the revealed religion. Likewise they corrupted the revealed religions of Krishna and Buddha. Please

Please quote from Krishna or Buddha where they mention Islam or Allah.
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[Tumah]

@paarsurrey
I am still waiting for a response to my post. #43 Please.

Regards.