Jesus , Krishna- which of the two is the supreme-god?

[paarsurrey]

For the simple reason that he is not an inquirer, he is a fault finder. He tries to be a proselytizer, something that he is not capable of doing. For him, Dr. Zaki Naik is a great religious philosopher.

I never said that.
Regards

 

[ajay0]

I never said that.
Regards

I was also wondering the same. Now that you have said this, you have shown that you are being subjected to misleading insinuations over here, which is not in the spirit of debate.

 

[ajay0]

Ajay, you're relatively new here. Aup and Paar both have over 10 000 posts, so they've been at this for quite awhile. Some of us other 'oldies' have read a lot of their words over substantial time, and have seen many repeat performances.

So you're not privy to all of that history, unless you're done a tonne of reading. I understand where you're coming from as perhaps I was once there myself. But if you try to explain something to somebody, watch others try to do the same, many many times, and you see no shift, there may be a tendency to let your frustration out occasionally. That is the nature of human discussion.

This applies to both Aup and Paar. Several others have debated Aup on about atheism and Hinduism, and several others have debated Paarsurrey about his Amadiyya lens from how he views the world. I've had the 'privilege' of watching and participating.

Not that you asked for it, but my advice would be not to waste your time. Both are inflappable in their convictions, but neither ever angers either.

I see. But I have a healthy opinion of the Ahmediya sect and its perspective and feels there is great merit in it. So too with the bahai perspective.

I do hope the debate goes with stress on the similarities and scriptural references in support of the premises and propositions, and disagree if needed without any negative tone.

 

[Glaurung]

One cannot talk about Dharmic religions in the same post where Abrahamic religions are talked about. It is an insult to Dharmic religions.

Do I see a double standard here?

 

[Aupmanyav]

IMHO, no. They are a world apart. Exclusivity.

 

[Glaurung]

IMHO, no. They are a world apart. Exclusivity.

No, I mean you state that to mention Dharmic and Abrahamic traditions in the same post (such as the OP) is offensive to Hindus. As if a Christian couldn't just as legitimately claim the reverse.

If I were to say that any mention of Hinduism in a post regarding Christianity is offensive to Christians, how'd you interpret that exactly?

 

[Aupmanyav]

I would consider it natural. I do not visit the Christian forums. Christians are vilifying Hinduism all over the internet.

 

[Glaurung]

I would consider it natural. I do not visit the Christian forums. Christians are vilifying Hinduism all over the internet.

So what? Christians are just as much if not moreso vilified over the internet, it doesn't make you any less hypocritical. Not to mention, the OP is attacking Christianity as much as he is attacking Hinduism here.

Granted, the OP is ridiculous so it doesn't really matter.

 

[paarsurrey]

So what? Christians are just as much if not moreso vilified over the internet, it doesn't make you any less hypocritical. Not to mention, the OP is attacking Christianity as much as he is attacking Hinduism here.

Granted, the OP is ridiculous so it doesn't really matter.

There cannot be more than one (in the form of humans like Jesus and or Krishna) Super-God.
If Jesus made the Law of Gravitation then of course Krishna would have not made it. This Law is the same in the Universe.
Did Jesus made the Law of Gravitation or Krishna? Christianity people or the Hinduism people should settle it. Else none of them has made it it, as this law was in work before the birth of Jesus and or Krishna. Right? Please
I have attacked none of them. I respect both of them as human prophets/messenger of G-d. Right? Please

Regards

 

[Aupmanyav]

So what? Christians are just as much if not more so vilified over the internet, it doesn't make you any less hypocritical.

No. Unless I am are made to comment on it (like it has happened the the present topic), I never cite Christianity or Islam. We have our own things to comment, discuss on. Chistianity and Islam are least of my concerns.

 

[Vinayaka]

I see. But I have a healthy opinion of the Ahmediya sect and its perspective and feels there is great merit in it. So too with the bahai perspective.

As do I, but in some cases certain individuals, because of individual ways of stating things, are poor representatives. Same its true for any faith.

 

[Vinayaka]

I was also wondering the same. Now that you have said this, you have shown that you are being subjected to misleading insinuations over here, which is not in the spirit of debate.

Decide for yourself.

Why Don't the Vedas Mention Rama or Krishna?

 

[Vinayaka]

I see. But I have a healthy opinion of the Ahmediya sect and its perspective and feels there is great merit in it. So too with the bahai perspective.

I do hope the debate goes with stress on the similarities and scriptural references in support of the premises and propositions, and disagree if needed without any negative tone.

Like I insinuated before, there is little anger. A poster can vehemently disagree, even get a tad snarky, and neither will anger, in my experience. Not so with everyone on forums, as you no doubt know. Sometimes just stating your opinion will get people all upset. I've done that, and then just to not get the person all mad, I have to avoid them, or tread lightly. I don't think we should be here to get people angry.

 

[paarsurrey]

Musing Bassist said: ↑
So what? Christians are just as much if not moreso vilified over the internet, it doesn't make you any less hypocritical. Not to mention, the OP is attacking Christianity as much as he is attacking Hinduism here.

Granted, the OP is ridiculous so it doesn't really matter.

There cannot be more than one (in the form of humans like Jesus and or Krishna) Super-God.
If Jesus made the Law of Gravitation then of course Krishna would have not made it. This Law is the same in the Universe.
Did Jesus made the Law of Gravitation or Krishna? Christianity people or the Hinduism people should settle it. Else none of them has made it it, as this law was in work before the birth of Jesus and or Krishna. Right? Please
I have attacked none of them. I respect both of them as human prophets/messenger of G-d. Right? Please

To add further:

Based on scriptural details and astrological calculations, the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami, is 18 July 3228 BCE and he lived until 18 February 3102 BCE. Krishna belonged to the Vrishni clan of Yadavas from Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki and her husband Vasudeva.
Krishna Janmashtami - Wikipedia

he (Jesus) was born between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C.
When Was Jesus Born? | Birth of Jesus Christ
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So, Krishna was born much earlier than Jesus. If Krishna had made Law of Gravitation and the Universe was already working on it, what did Jesus do about it? Please

Regards

 

[Aupmanyav]

Based on scriptural details and astrological calculations, the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami, is 18 July 3228 BCE and he lived until 18 February 3102 BCE. Krishna belonged to the Vrishni clan of Yadavas from Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki and her husband Vasudeva.
Krishna Janmashtami - Wikipedia

So, Krishna was born much earlier than Jesus. If Krishna had made Law of Gravitation and the Universe was already working on it, what did Jesus do about it?

You are right, Parsurrey. Seriously, the Law of Gravity did not exist before Krishna's time. He made it.

 

[Glaurung]

No. Unless I am are made to comment on it (like it has happened the the present topic), I never cite Christianity or Islam. We have our own things to comment, discuss on. Chistianity and Islam are least of my concerns.

You're not paying attention.

Your hypocrisy lies in the flippant way in which you stated that any comparison between Abrahamic and Dharmic religion is an offensive slight upon Dharmics. Such implies that respect should only go one way. It's not that the OP is ridiculous, it's that it should offend you. Good grief.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Respect where respect is deserved. Exclusive religions do not deserve respect. They are the source of evil. Calling spade a spade.

 

[paarsurrey]

You are right, Parsurrey. Seriously, the Law of Gravity did not exist before Krishna's time. He made it.

And this is from a strong atheist who only culturally and socially believes in Krishna a god or supreme-God not as a religious or revealed religion's conviction. Right? Please
Anybody else, please
Regards

 

[Aupmanyav]

If any other God can create the Laws of Gravity, why not a Hindu God? The Lord appeared as Krishna 5,119 year ago, as Rama 869,119 years ago, and in six other forms even before that. It is not that Laws of Gravity were created yesterday.

 

[Muffled]

You do realize that you have just deftly trapped yourself in a corner, right? Please
Regards

I believe my copy is tuck in a corner and it is a very large book that I don't have memorized. Right now I am not motivated to go look for it. I tried to find a search online but all I found was text.