A Bunch of Reasons Why I Question Noah's Flood Story:

[Jose Fly]

There is a lot of that "and they were never heard from again" going on in these debates. @tas8831 cracks me up when he throws that out there so appropriately.

I'd forgotten how bad Leroy is at that. Just in the last couple of weeks or so, he's completely bailed on me three separate times.

That's just the nature of creationism.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'd forgotten how bad Leroy is at that. Just in the last couple of weeks or so, he's completely bailed on me three separate times.

That's just the nature of creationism.

If only he would take the same position with his feathered rabbits evolving prior to mammals.

 

[leroy]

They have been supported, explained, explained again, explained yet again and explained even more and then explained some more and still here you are posting the same nonsense assertions and points. This is one of the finest examples of creationist gibberish I have seen in some time.

So can you quote any of my claims that has been refuted with evidence (not just assertions)?

Quote both my claim and the refutation

 

[leroy]

Good grief! Are you for real? Seriously? You are still arguing that there were mammals with feathers.

No, you are not following the conversation.

I said that if there where mammals with feathers we would have a different tree where feathers evolved before birds and mammals split.

Any disagreement form your part

 

[Dan From Smithville]

No, you are not following the conversation.

I said that if there where mammals with feathers we would have a different tree where feathers evolved before birds and mammals split.

Any disagreement form your part

You can concoct and post any nonsense you care to, but I have no interest in wasting more of my time on it. Especially when it has been explained to you endlessly how your fantastical speculation is meaningless and baseless.

 

[leroy]

leroy said: ↑
No, you are not following the conversation.

I said that if there where mammals with feathers we would have a different tree where feathers evolved before birds and mammals split.

Any disagreement form your part

You can concoct and post any nonsense you care to, but I have no interest in wasting more of my time on it. Especially when it has been explained to you endlessly how your fantastical speculation is meaningless and baseless.

Translation yes I agree with your claim, but I don’t what to openly and unambiguously admit it because I don’t what to look bad between my evolutionist friends.

 

[Bear Wild]

If only he would take the same position with his feathered rabbits evolving prior to mammals.

He is actually desperately hoping some one will find a griffin fossil to exonerate himself.

Or more terrifying yet an

Al-mi’raj

Despite its harmless appearance, this beast could kill creatures much larger than itself by stabbing them with its horn and then devour them. Note all of the blood in the picture.

I try to warn people about those rascally rabbits.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Translation yes I agree with your claim, but I don’t what to openly and unambiguously admit it because I don’t what to look bad between my evolutionist friends.

Not at all. Why would I agree with something that is completely wrong and shown to be wrong. But it is the expected declaration of a win in pigeon chess after crapping all over the board. Be sure you tell all your creationist buddies in the coop.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

He is actually desperately hoping some one will find a griffin fossil to exonerate himself.

Or more terrifying yet an

Al-mi’raj

Despite its harmless appearance, this beast could kill creatures much larger than itself by stabbing them with its horn and then devour them. Note all of the blood in the picture.

I try to warn people about those rascally rabbits.

Magical unicorn rabbits and lobsters with human eyes are all he has to work with since he has no clue about reality and does not want one.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

No, you are not following the conversation.

I said that if there where mammals with feathers we would have a different tree where feathers evolved before birds and mammals split.

Any disagreement form your part

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'ld all have a merry christmass.

And no, that was not the point that kickstarted the conversation.
What kickstarted the conversation was "what if we find a mammal with feathers tomorrow" - implying all other evidence we have today remained the same.

The point never was "what if ALL evidence were different?"
That's just you moving the goalpost when cornered, instead of just admitting your error.

 

[tas8831]

"a global flood could easily drag many ecosystems within a few days and stack one on top of the other.

How so? Documentation please.
Or as your buddy nPeace would say - 'Where is the photograph of this?'

A global flood would have also ruined most dating methods making dates invalid.

... wait a sec...

Do demonstrate, oh master of all science, how, EXACTLY, a flood would interfere with isotopic decay.


But - wait... I thought you were all about ID, not creationism? Are you like the 'professional' ID advocates who claim it is all about SCIENCE and has nothing to do with Christianity when in public, but now can readily be seen claiming that ID is really proof of Creation in their religious lectures and social media propaganda?

 

[tas8831]

I must have missed where Johnny Science rebutted my prediction and its vindication....

Fossils of creatures living in the same areas with the same habits (diet, etc.) and of the same general body mass/surface area (like, say, modern hippos and ceratopsian dinosaurs) to be found in the same strata.

That ceratopsian dinosaurs should be found in much deeper strata dated to much much earlier periods in earth history than hippos.

That ceratopsian dinosaurs are found in much deeper strata dated to much much earlier periods in earth history than hippos.

 

[tas8831]

But you are unable to quote a comment were I demonstrated ignorance …

How about where you said transposons can be fixed in 1 generation? Or that drift selects mutations?

 

[tas8831]

Scientist know that dating a layer is not an exact science. There are many assumptions, especulations and biases behind dating a sample.

Well tell us all about it, Johnny Science! Tell us all about these assumptions, speculations, and biases. You seem to pretend to know all about it.

 

[leroy]

How so? Documentation please.
Or as your buddy nPeace would say - 'Where is the photograph of this?'

... wait a sec...

Do demonstrate, oh master of all science, how, EXACTLY, a flood would interfere with isotopic decay.


But - wait... I thought you were all about ID, not creationism? Are you like the 'professional' ID advocates who claim it is all about SCIENCE and has nothing to do with Christianity when in public, but now can readily be seen claiming that ID is really proof of Creation in their religious lectures and social media propaganda?

I am not a creationists, I don’t believe in a global flood, the only claim that I am making is that the fossil record doesn’t refute the flood (nor it proves evolution)
So if you disagree please provide your evidence for the contrary

 

[leroy]

How about where you said transposons can be fixed in 1 generation? Or that drift selects mutations?

Aja, then why cant you find a quote of me saying that?

 

[leroy]

Well tell us all about it, Johnny Science! Tell us all about these assumptions, speculations, and biases. You seem to pretend to know all about it.

Sure select your favorite dating method and I´ll tell you which assumptions, speculations and biases are made.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I am not a creationists, I don’t believe in a global flood, the only claim that I am making is that the fossil record doesn’t refute the flood (nor it proves evolution)
So if you disagree please provide your evidence for the contrary

Since you never defend your claims, there is no need for anyone to do anything but reject them.

If you want more than you are going to have to do more than just repeat them and try to push your burden of proof onto others.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Aja, then why cant you find a quote of me saying that?

I believe him. I have seen your posts.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Sure select your favorite dating method and I´ll tell you which assumptions, speculations and biases are made.

What is preventing you from providing that information in support of your claims without all the ridiculous restrictions and demands?