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Male Abortion (should man have the right to abort)

leroy

Well-Known Member
Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I swear I thought this was a joke about spilling one's seed when I read the title. :D

I'm pleased to hear your views about defending/protecting the lives of the unborn. :)

I suppose men "should" in theory have the same rights as women regarding unwanted pregnancies! ;)
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?
No problem whatsoever with that. As long as they have more or less the same legal deadline (no pun intended). Namely, the woman must still be allowed to abort, if the man decides not to be father.

that is, incidentally, what has been proposed in Sweden. Both can abort until the 18th week of pregnancy.

ciao

- viole
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

Fortunately for mothers who have been abandon by the father, the Courts don't see it that way.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?
That sounds fair enough. I can imagine the woman however, bemoaning he got her pregnant in the first place and now she's on her own.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
If you don't want a baby don't stick it in.
True!

Thou art wise beyond thy years, devout devotee, and child of the Most High , exalted, and powerful Amun-Ra!
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PureX

Veteran Member
The woman gets the right to choose because gestation occurs within her own body. Like it or not, that gives her the right to choose if, how, and when this will occur. The rest of us may want to be in control of that, and get a say, but we aren't, and we shouldn't.

As to taking responsibility for the child's well-being after birth, that falls to both parents. As it should. The father or mother do not have to actively participate, but they are financially responsible just the same. So in answer to the OP question, I think "male abortion" is just an attempt at justifying a man refusing to take any responsibility for the life he's helped bring into existence.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The woman gets the right to choose because gestation occurs within her own body. Like it or not, that gives her the right to choose if, how, and when this will occur. The rest of us may want to be in control of that, and get a say, but we aren't, and we shouldn't.

As to taking responsibility for the child's well-being after birth, that falls to both parents. As it should. The father or mother do not have to actively participate, but they are financially responsible just the same. So in answer to the OP question, I think "male abortion" is just an attempt at justifying a man refusing to take any responsibility for the life they've helped bring into existence.
The woman has just as much responsibility as well with her decision as to who she sleeps with.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?

Basically what happen for both me and one of my son's.

My mother decided to raise me independent of any rights/financial obligation from my biological father. My son's ex-girlfriend did the same. I guess it worked out.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?
So you seriously can't see a moral difference between:

- getting an abortion
- using financial coercion to force someone else into getting an abortion they don't want

Give your head a shake. This is a new low, even for you.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

You can decide not to be a Father. And absolutely walk away, bearing no parental responsibility to raise the child. The only thing you have to do is pay a modicum of child support.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?
Yes, for the first trimester period only.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Lots of pregnancies occur that are not by choice. So that argument doesn't really fly. Anyway, the discussion is about what happens after the pregnancy occurs.
That's why it needs to be taken on a case by case basis.
 
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