Satanists Claim Abortion a Religious Ritual

[Wildswanderer]

Yes. Or prisoners. Or any other heinous criminal. Or the willing, and suicidal. Death is as much a part of the story as life is. It's essential.

It's not essential that you kill anyone.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I give you my blessing to sacrifice every atheist who is occupying your body without your consent, if that's what you want to do.

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

 

[Father Heathen]

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

Rape?

 

[The Hammer]

It's not essential that you kill anyone.

Depends on the circumstances and the event imo.

 

[Sheldon]

So, if one would say atheists don't "possess all of the necessary attributes of personhood", it would be ok to sacrifice them for Moloch, like they seem to do in abortion?

Your argument is flawed because by any objective standard an atheist is a person. An insentient egg, embryo, blastocyst, or developing foetus is not. The person is the pregnant woman whose body it is a part of.

 

[Sheldon]

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

No it doesn't, see I can make absolute claims as well.

 

[Viker]

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

So rape is a woman's responsibility? A woman caused herself to be raped? WTF!?

(True colors or they have no clue about they're saying.)

 

[Altfish]

Why?

Because it messes with the minds of evangelicals

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

That's a pretty rapey attitude right there. Are you sure you don't want to rethink what you're saying?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Rape?

The tiny percent argument? Most abortion is for convenience.
I still don't see how it's ever right to take an innocent life. It's not the child's fault.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You can create any arbitrary list of requirements for any group of people in order to label them "other" or "disposable" - they did that with those Black people in chains to justify keeping them in chains.

There has never been a human being that was not also a person - so if the fetus is human - he/she is a person.

The waiting list for people to adopt newborn babies is years long.

You are using old worn-out "pro-choice" talking points that have never held up under scrutiny.

That is why "abortion" is such a sensationalized topic - because the "pro-choice" crowd doesn't want people actually thinking about the issue.

Meanwhile there are tens of thousands of unwanted children in the foster care system that nobody seems to want, I guess because they aren't babies.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So rape is a woman's responsibility? A woman caused herself to be raped? WTF!?

(True colors or they have no clue about they're saying.)

That's less than 1% of all abortions when there has been rape or incest involved to create the pregnancy. About 85% of the women who become pregnant through rape or incest choose to have their children anyway.
An Elliot Institute study on rape-related pregnancies found that nearly 80% of the women who aborted said that abortion was the wrong solution.
Many women say that when they see their child, they fall in love at first sight. Others choose adoption because they don’t want an abortion, but don’t want the child either.

 

[Wildswanderer]

That's a pretty rapey attitude right there. Are you sure you don't want to rethink what you're saying?

Many women say that when they see their child, they fall in love at first sight. Others may choose adoption because they don’t want an abortion, but don’t want the child either.
Less than 1 percent of abortion is due to rape or incest and in most of those cases the mother still decides to have her child.

 

[Sheldon]

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

Rape?

The tiny percent argument?

Nope, see your own claim, I've emboldened the significant part of your claim that @Father Heathen's post refuted rather neatly and very pithily, you may also note the question mark in his post, which apparently, you missed somehow?

Maybe debate is not for you?

 

[Sheldon]

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation. That makes it your responsibility to preserve that life.

That's less than 1% of all abortions when there has been rape or incest involved to create the pregnancy. About 85% of the women who become pregnant through rape or incest choose to have their children anyway.
An Elliot Institute study on rape-related pregnancies found that nearly 80% of the women who aborted said that abortion was the wrong solution.
Many women say that when they see their child, they fall in love at first sight. Others choose adoption because they don’t want an abortion, but don’t want the child either.

Are you seeing your error yet? Or is this shifting of the goal posts deliberate? You made an absolute claim, unevidenced of course, and as it happens demonstrably false, since in the case of rape your claim is quite obviously wrong. You should really make some sort of beeping sound, if you're going back up that quickly to a different argument.

 

[Viker]

That's less than 1% of all abortions when there has been rape or incest involved to create the pregnancy. About 85% of the women who become pregnant through rape or incest choose to have their children anyway.
An Elliot Institute study on rape-related pregnancies found that nearly 80% of the women who aborted said that abortion was the wrong solution.
Many women say that when they see their child, they fall in love at first sight. Others choose adoption because they don’t want an abortion, but don’t want the child either.

You claimed, "If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation."

Still, what if a woman does not want to carry the fetus?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Nope, see your own claim, I've emboldened the significant part of your claim that @Father Heathen's post refuted rather neatly and very pithily, you may also note the question mark in his post, which apparently, you missed somehow?

Maybe debate is not for you?

Like I said, the tiny percentage that usually keep the child anyway.

 

[Sheldon]

That's less than 1% of all abortions when there has been rape or incest involved to create the pregnancy.

So you were wrong then, yes?

If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation.

 

[Sheldon]

Less than 1 percent of abortion is due to rape or incest and in most of those cases the mother still decides to have her child.

Ah I see, you're ok with women having the choice, as long as they decide the way you want them to?

 

[Sheldon]

Like I said, the tiny percentage that usually keep the child anyway.

A tiny percentage that refuted your claim, you seem to be galloping past this error, into non-sequiturs?

Wildswanderer said: ↑
If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation.

So your claim was wrong, yes?